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    Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
   (...) Logic dictates that he cannot think that LGBT tendancies are genetically influenced, since simultaneously claiming them to be sinful would be as socially regressive as saying that it's sinful to be born with a birthspot. He can't have it both (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
     (...) Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in homosexual sex. I wouldn't put that "feeling" on par with even incest, which probably is just deep taboo (whatever that is). JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Ross Crawford
      (...) You've asked them all, have you? I would say many heterosexuals would probably have such revulsion, but I wouldn't be arrogant enought to assume they ALL do. ROSCO (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
      (...) Well, the ones that didn't I wouldn't categorize as "heterosexual", but as "heterosexual with homosexual tendencies", or some other such qualification. JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Ross Crawford
       (...) Even if they are only attracted to women, and only sleep with women? There is nothing in the definition of heterosexual that says you have to be REPULSED by homosexuality. How much "homosexual tendency" does a heterosexual have to have before (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
       (...) So, are you saying that heterosexuals in prison who engage in homosexual sex are still heterosexuals? This is an interesting distinction and I have heard it before among Latin men. They believe that they can have sex with a Gay man (they, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Todd Lehman
        (...) Someone who's bisexual in prison isn't necessarily also bisexual outside of prison. BTW, in Kiss of the Spider Woman, do you consider the kiss between Luis and Valentin to be one of a bisexual nature or just brotherly love? I don't think the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
        (...) Erm, sorry, I missed that flick. (...) (shrugs) They are bi? :-) I find this topic very confusing and very inconsistent, because there always seems to be exceptions, but in doing a little googling, I just found (URL) this article> which drew (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Todd Lehman
        (...) Well didn't you know that all left-handed people are gay? (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
        (...) What's so interesting is that about the same percentage of the population is gay as is left-handed.... (just not the same percentages:-) JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Allister McLaren
        (...) There was a time when being left-handed was looked down upon. Great lengths were taken in schools to get kids to go against their nature and many were forced into writing with the right hand. Of course, society is much more grown up about this (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
         (...) Language even still reflects this, as most of us use the "right" hand, and an outmoded synonym for the left is "sinister". (...) You'd think so, but it's not completely true. Left-handers get left alone, but ambidextrous people might not. I (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
        
             Re: Lavender Brick Society —Joakim Olsson
          "Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I4CG4p.nt4@lugnet.com... (...) alone, but (...) and he (...) either (...) grab a (...) the (...) trained (...) I can only write with my left hand.. and only use a scissor with my (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
        
             Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Koudys
          (...) I was pretty much ambidexterous when I was young--wrote with both hands until my Gr. 1 or 2 teacher (can't remember which) sat me down and told me to 'pick a hand' 'cause my printing of letters would either slant to the left or to the right, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
          (...) Plus, you've got that goofy metric system to worry about. I don't doubt your tale at all, though it reminds me of other people I've known who've made claims of ambidexterity: Usually it amounts to "I write with my right hand, and I can use a (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Koudys
           (...) <snipp> (...) Does writing with your left hand make you left handed, or, as in my case, since I'm basically right-handed predominant except for writing (and who writes anymore, anyway) would I be considered right-handed? Dave K (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
          
               Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
           (...) If you saw that a baseball was about to smack you in your noggin from directly in front of you, would you catch/deflect it with your left or right hand? (Assuming, of course, that simple dodging was not an option). Hardly a scientific (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
          
               Even-handedness Was Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Koudys
            (...) When you ask the question, it requires thought--all spontaneousness reflexive action is then ignored... What would I do... Right now I think that if something was thrown at my face, I'd throw up both arms to protect my face. When someone (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
          
               Re: Lavender Brick Society —Frank Filz
             "Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:I4CL81.1qo7@lugnet.com... (...) case, since (...) writes (...) directly (...) Hmm, I feel like I would block with my left hand/arm, but I am probably right handed (I used to mix hands for some (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
           
                Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
            (...) Well, it's clear that you and Purple Dave have thought about this more carefully than I did. Shame on me for coming up with a weak example! Dave! (still left-handed) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
           
                Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
            (...) Since you are admittedly baseball-knowledge challenged, I will tell you that if you are right handed, you'd probably attempt to catch/deflect the ball with your left hand (the hand that would normally wear the baseball glove). The right hand (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
           
                Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Koudys
            In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) ANd if you catch better with your right hand, and throw better with your right hand... what does that make you? Dave K -now confused about how handedness he is... (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
           
                Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
            (...) You guessed it...."confused";-) "I'm sorry, I have a cold" JOHN (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
          
               Re: Lavender Brick Society —Thomas Stangl
           (...) Whichever hand was closer. Or whichever had a mitt on ;-) I catch with either hand equally well. But while "left-handed", I can only throw accurately right-handed. So I pretty much ended up catching LH, so that I wouldn't have to catch RH, (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
          (...) I've always viewed it as mixed-handedness when you do some things with one and some things with the other. Being fully ambidextrous should require being able to do everything with either hand at will, and being partially ambidextrous should (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
           (...) There is some evidence that dyslexia is caused by making kids learn to read before their brain is ready for that kind of processing. I'm the first to admit that it's weak evidence, but there are a bunch of schools that adhere to a philosophy (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
           (...) Oh, I don't doubt that it's a real condition, and I don't even doubt that it may have a higher incidence than previously known. But I'm uncomfortable with the correlation between the ease-of-diagnosis and the availability-of-prof...edication. (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
         
              Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
          (...) I just realized that you're making a correct and finer distinction than I did. I didn't mean to suggest that these disorder are mere behavior problems in need of more discipline. On the other hand, sympton-lists are problematic because it's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
        
             Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
         (...) I actually sat down and examined the way right- and left-handed scissors work and figured out how to use either style in either hand. It's visciously uncomfortable to use scissors in the wrong hand, but it can be done. (...) I've also trained (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Thomas Stangl
        (...) They tried, they REALLY tried with me in school. But I'm more stubborn than any teacher I've ever run into, and my left-handedness won out ;-) Then again, I can write semi-legibly with my right hand if given time. About the only things I can't (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
        (...) Did that include beating your hands with a ruler if you wrote with your left hand, Tom? That's what happened to my bf, who is left handed but still writes (very slowly and badly) with his right. Kevin (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Thomas Stangl
        Nope. Even when I was that young, if they would have hit me with a ruler, I probably would have yanked it out of their hand and beat them back. Up until senior year in HS, I was always a bit large for my age ;-) And my parents, while probably (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
       (...) It parsed with the ancient Greeks. It was considered socially acceptable for mentors to engage in consensual acts with their also-male students, but only the passive partner was considered to be gay. Also, I've heard theories stated that the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
      (...) Like open-mindedness. Chris (now with homosexual-tendencies!) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Mike Rayhawk
     (...) I'm a heterosexual. I'm not repulsed by seeing homosexual intercourse. I'm not turned on by it either. It just doesn't mean anything to me, probably because my particular religious upbringing never told me what I was supposed to think about (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) Are you discussing some certain circumstance? I know people under horomone-treatment for gender reassignment and people who've been surgically gender-reassigned and they don't report such repulsion. I know a woman who had a radical (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Mike Rayhawk
     (...) The article I read dealt with dysfunction related to clinical depression, and didn't describe the hormones as sex hormones specifically - so I conjecture that by "arousal hormones" it was referring to something more along the lines of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
   (...) Perhaps he's like the White Queen, who could "believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast" :-) Kevin (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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