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Re: Lavender Brick Society
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Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:33:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Rayhawk wrote:

   (An interesting point to note is that all sexual behavior is inherently disgusting. In fact, minus a couple of key arousal hormones, human beings find all expressions of sex to be disgusting and repulsive, including the most traditional heterosexual forms, even if prior to the loss of those hormones they took great enjoyment in sex.

Are you discussing some certain circumstance? I know people under horomone-treatment for gender reassignment and people who’ve been surgically gender-reassigned and they don’t report such repulsion. I know a woman who had a radical hysterectomy who doesn’t report that repulsion.

   Little kids, prior to the expression of these hormones in puberty, notoriously find even romantic kissing to be gross,

I call socialization. I know several kids -- my own, in particular, who were raised in sexually open households who do not display that tendency. I did when I was a kid, so I totally know what you mean, but my ten year old son has never done so and is completely comfortable with sexual topics.

   and it’s not hard to guess what their opinion would be of further acts involving larger amounts of viscuous fluids.

I know a guy who reports the cute behavior of having his young son vault onto his back and ride him like a horse while he was having sex with his wife. Obviously that doesn’t imply dealing with semen on any personal level, but it certainly points to open acceptance.

   But these kinds of ‘natural’ disgust responses are nowhere near the violent level John describes. You really only see that level of automatic emotional response in children exposed to sexual abuse, who will then tend to develop strong emotional reactions to sexualized stimuli, although the specific emotions triggered are different in every case.)

I just wanted to further emphasize your point and show that ‘natural’ ain’t. John’s reaction is farther from natural yet if you understand that the childhood aversion of romance and sex is just a matter of socialization with taboo.

Chris



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(...) The article I read dealt with dysfunction related to clinical depression, and didn't describe the hormones as sex hormones specifically - so I conjecture that by "arousal hormones" it was referring to something more along the lines of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) I'm a heterosexual. I'm not repulsed by seeing homosexual intercourse. I'm not turned on by it either. It just doesn't mean anything to me, probably because my particular religious upbringing never told me what I was supposed to think about (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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