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Re: Lavender Brick Society
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Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:07:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:

Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in homosexual sex.

I’m a heterosexual. I’m not repulsed by seeing homosexual intercourse. I’m not turned on by it either. It just doesn’t mean anything to me, probably because my particular religious upbringing never told me what I was supposed to think about it. They never took the time out to tell me all the different kinds of people I’m supposed to hate, reject, dehumanize, and be disgusted by. Nowadays I sometimes wonder if that type of religion even counts as Christianity anymore, since we apparently fail the minimum hate requirements.

I’ve never been able to understand the fascination some heterosexuals have with being repulsed by gay sex. It’s a little weird to have such visceral feelings about something that really shouldn’t mean anything to you at all, and weirder to claim that everyone else suffers from the same fixation. Maybe you’ll feel like a failure as a Christian if you don’t claim to have this primal reaction, maybe you were somehow the victim of some kind of gay trauma in your early childhood. I’ve heard the jocks in the locker room too-eagerly expressing this kind of disgust, and I’ve heard it from the crassly mercenary televangelists, but I’ve never heard it from anyone who appeared to have either an ounce of intelligence or opinions that had resulted from personal reflection rather than from some form of indoctrination.

I’m not ruling it out though. There are a lot of heterosexuals reading these threads. John says he feels this instinctive disgust, and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. But he hasn’t really struck me as the exception to either of my above rules, so is there anyone else out there that can attest to experiencing that same reaction?

Quite a number of people have already confirmed that they don’t, despite John’s continued claim that such people don’t exist, so there’s no real need for any more negative responses. But all snide remarks aside, I really am curious, is John unique? Or is there some segment of the heterosexual population that has a natural, involuntary disgust reaction at the thought of gay sex?

I’ve taken up the issue with friends at various times, for the most part if they’re disgusted, it’s by specific acts, regardless of whether the people involved are of the same or different genders. No one I’ve talked to has ever expressed the kind of disgust that John claims is natural to all heterosexuals.


(An interesting point to note is that all sexual behavior is inherently disgusting. In fact, minus a couple of key arousal hormones, human beings find all expressions of sex to be disgusting and repulsive, including the most traditional heterosexual forms, even if prior to the loss of those hormones they took great enjoyment in sex. Little kids, prior to the expression of these hormones in puberty, notoriously find even romantic kissing to be gross, and it’s not hard to guess what their opinion would be of further acts involving larger amounts of viscuous fluids. But these kinds of ‘natural’ disgust responses are nowhere near the violent level John describes. You really only see that level of automatic emotional response in children exposed to sexual abuse, who will then tend to develop strong emotional reactions to sexualized stimuli, although the specific emotions triggered are different in every case.)



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  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Are you discussing some certain circumstance? I know people under horomone-treatment for gender reassignment and people who've been surgically gender-reassigned and they don't report such repulsion. I know a woman who had a radical (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in homosexual sex. I wouldn't put that "feeling" on par with even incest, which probably is just deep taboo (whatever that is). JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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