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Re: Lavender Brick Society
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:07:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in
homosexual sex.
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Im a heterosexual. Im not repulsed by seeing homosexual intercourse. Im not
turned on by it either. It just doesnt mean anything to me, probably because
my particular religious upbringing never told me what I was supposed to think
about it. They never took the time out to tell me all the different kinds of
people Im supposed to hate, reject, dehumanize, and be disgusted by. Nowadays
I sometimes wonder if that type of religion even counts as Christianity anymore,
since we apparently fail the minimum hate requirements.
Ive never been able to understand the fascination some heterosexuals have with
being repulsed by gay sex. Its a little weird to have such visceral feelings
about something that really shouldnt mean anything to you at all, and weirder
to claim that everyone else suffers from the same fixation. Maybe youll feel
like a failure as a Christian if you dont claim to have this primal reaction,
maybe you were somehow the victim of some kind of gay trauma in your early
childhood. Ive heard the jocks in the locker room too-eagerly expressing this
kind of disgust, and Ive heard it from the crassly mercenary televangelists,
but Ive never heard it from anyone who appeared to have either an ounce of
intelligence or opinions that had resulted from personal reflection rather than
from some form of indoctrination.
Im not ruling it out though. There are a lot of heterosexuals reading these
threads. John says he feels this instinctive disgust, and Ill give him the
benefit of the doubt. But he hasnt really struck me as the exception to either
of my above rules, so is there anyone else out there that can attest to
experiencing that same reaction?
Quite a number of people have already confirmed that they dont, despite Johns
continued claim that such people dont exist, so theres no real need for any
more negative responses. But all snide remarks aside, I really am curious, is
John unique? Or is there some segment of the heterosexual population that has a
natural, involuntary disgust reaction at the thought of gay sex?
Ive taken up the issue with friends at various times, for the most part if
theyre disgusted, its by specific acts, regardless of whether the people
involved are of the same or different genders. No one Ive talked to has ever
expressed the kind of disgust that John claims is natural to all heterosexuals.
(An interesting point to note is that all sexual behavior is inherently
disgusting. In fact, minus a couple of key arousal hormones, human beings find
all expressions of sex to be disgusting and repulsive, including the most
traditional heterosexual forms, even if prior to the loss of those hormones they
took great enjoyment in sex. Little kids, prior to the expression of these
hormones in puberty, notoriously find even romantic kissing to be gross, and
its not hard to guess what their opinion would be of further acts involving
larger amounts of viscuous fluids. But these kinds of natural disgust
responses are nowhere near the violent level John describes. You really only
see that level of automatic emotional response in children exposed to sexual
abuse, who will then tend to develop strong emotional reactions to sexualized
stimuli, although the specific emotions triggered are different in every case.)
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| (...) Are you discussing some certain circumstance? I know people under horomone-treatment for gender reassignment and people who've been surgically gender-reassigned and they don't report such repulsion. I know a woman who had a radical (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Specifically, the revulsion of heterosexuals by the idea of engaging in homosexual sex. I wouldn't put that "feeling" on par with even incest, which probably is just deep taboo (whatever that is). JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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