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Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:14:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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They aren’t, but you’ve lost me.
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“Everybody is intolerant of something” which you are using in relation to
liberals being “intolerant of intolerance”. Translated, “Liberals are as
big as jerks as racists (insert homophobes, mysoginists, etc, as
appropriate) because they are intolerant of the racists intolerance.” That
is, they are somehow equal in their intolerance. That is simply one of the
stupidiest or most self-serving conclusions that I have ever seen and it is
one that is routinely used by conservatives.
You say they aren’t the same, but your examples contradict yourself.
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Ah, there was my confusion. They are the same, in a manner of speaking. If
I hate clone-lovers, I am guilty of intolerance. If I am a pluralist and I
can’t tolerate those who hate clone-lovers, then I am guilty of intolerance
and hypocrisy.
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So, you are saying that those that can’t stand racists aren’t as bad as the
actual racists, they are worse. As I said, stupid or self-serving.
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Look, all I am saying is that if one is going to preach tolerance (read:
pluralists), than be tolerant in all circumstances, not merely when it
serves one’s agendas.
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It is the justification of the hypocrisy of the pluralists that I am trying
to understand.
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It is the justification of racism that I am trying to understand
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There is no justification for it, except to say that everyone has the right to
their own (however bigotted) opinion. It is that right that the pluralists
can’t tolerate (unless it jibes with their own, as is ironically in the case of
racism, with the concept of affirmative action)
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(well, I do,
it is a game to try and put liberals in the defensive while glossing over the
faults of conservatives).
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There is no glossing (unless you are accusing conservatives of racism?), but
merely pointing out liberal inconsistencies (WRT to this issue)
JOHN
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