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Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
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Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:46:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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So, you are saying that those that cant stand racists arent as bad as the
actual racists, they are worse. As I said, stupid or self-serving.
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Look, all I am saying is that if one is going to preach tolerance (read:
pluralists), than be tolerant in all circumstances, not merely when it
serves ones agendas.
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And I am saying that those that want to be intolerant (read: haters of those
different from their own narrow views) have come up with an ego-defense
mechanism that tries to equate their intolerance of others as the same as the
disapproval of said intolerance (read: those who find the haters distasteful) as
the same thing. Its a game so that conservatives can play a game of gotchya.
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There is no justification for it, except to say that everyone has the right
to their own (however bigotted) opinion.
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But, of course, we arent talking about opinion, we are talking about evicting
people from their homes because they are not wanted in this community, so we
are talking about actions.
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(well, I do,
it is a game to try and put liberals in the defensive while glossing over
the faults of conservatives).
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There is no glossing (unless you are accusing conservatives of racism?), but
merely pointing out liberal inconsistencies (WRT to this issue)
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Of course it is glossing over. Thats the whole point of the Liberals are
intolerant of intolerance, therefore they are just as bad argument. Its to
remove the debate from the original problem, and attempt to shut up the critics.
Look at your own string of answers: you avoid the original news item like the
plague, and try to introduce anything you can to steer off-course and change the
focus to criticism of liberals, and specifically that their criticisms arent
valid (which, of course, supports the racists/sexists/homophobes/religious
fanatics/etc.). Certainly not every conservative has thought this through -
they just want to score debate points and feel good about themselves, but still,
there it is.
-->Bruce<--
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