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Subject:	Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:18:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

They aren’t, but you’ve lost me.

“Everybody is intolerant of something” which you are using in relation to liberals being “intolerant of intolerance”. Translated, “Liberals are as big as jerks as racists (insert homophobes, mysoginists, etc, as appropriate) because they are intolerant of the racists intolerance.” That is, they are somehow equal in their intolerance. That is simply one of the stupidiest or most self-serving conclusions that I have ever seen and it is one that is routinely used by conservatives.

You say they aren’t the same, but your examples contradict yourself.

Ah, there was my confusion. They are the same, in a manner of speaking. If I hate clone-lovers, I am guilty of intolerance. If I am a pluralist and I can’t tolerate those who hate clone-lovers, then I am guilty of intolerance and hypocrisy.

So, you are saying that those that can’t stand racists aren’t as bad as the actual racists, they are worse. As I said, stupid or self-serving.

It is the justification of the hypocrisy of the pluralists that I am trying to understand.

It is the justification of racism that I am trying to understand (well, I do, it is a game to try and put liberals in the defensive while glossing over the faults of conservatives).

-->Bruce<--

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		Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
(...) Look, all I am saying is that if one is going to preach tolerance (read: pluralists), than be tolerant in all circumstances, not merely when it serves one's agendas. (...) There is no justification for it, except to say that everyone has the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
(...) I fear we are not on the same wavelength here. I think Larry addressed my concern: (URL) private verses public> (...) Well, in the original, the government was involved. From the beginning I posed my question assuming no governmental (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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