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Re: Marriage (was: Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee)
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Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:58:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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I dont think its so obvious, honestly. If the fundamental criterion for
legal marriage is the possibility of childbirth, then non-fertile couples
must not be allowed to wed. Similarly, if a wife and husband try
unsuccessfully to conceive, must their marriage be dissolved?
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Dont ask, dont tell;-) But seriously, privacy issues put that tack in irons.
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What is obvious is the fact that the possibility of childbirth is not the
fundamental criterion of marriage. Equally obvious is the fact that the
differences between men and women are not fundamental criteria, either.
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If you want to argue that men and women are basically the same, bring it on;-D
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Which, in your view, would be more destructive to the development and
well-being of a child: a loving, stable marriage between two men in which
the child is raised by both parents, or a bitter, abusive marriage between a
man and a woman, in which one or both parents fail to provide emotional
stability for the child?
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Specious. You are comparing apples and oranges. Of course Id never advocate
abuse by anyone. By your analogy, 2 loving wolves would be better than 1
abusive heterosexual couple. Rephrase your question with the premise of all
things being equal. That is a more valid analogy.
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If you are indeed thinking primarily of the childs well being, and if youre
willing to have the Constitution altered to protect childrens well-being,
wouldnt it follow that dysfunctional heterosexual marriage must be banned
along with homosexual marriage?
If not, why not?
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Define dysfunctional. And BTW, the proposed Amendment doesnt ban gay
marriage; it merely defines marriage as the union of 1 man and 1 women. I could
just as easily call it the Amendment that bans polygamy, but that isnt really
an accurate title.
Are we already devolving into the Pro-Choice/Pro-Abortion vs
Pro-Life/Anti-Abortion nomenclature already?
JOHN
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