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Re: Yet another push for thoughtful legislation from Tennessee
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:37:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Hmmm, I have to agree with you, Dave! Here is the problem.
Okay, so you have a group of bigots. They have every right to be bigotted
(let’s for the sake of argument forsake any governmental affiliations here)
and live in their bigotted world. So why do groups such as the ACLU
constantly swoop in and stir the pot? If pluralism is valued, why is it
only when the values agree with their agenda? It’s always “tolerance,
tolerance, tolerance” except regarding the intolerant. Then it’s
intolerance and lawsuits.
JOHN
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Easily answered: because said bigots are trying to limit the freedom of
those that they are bigoted against.
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So I should not be able to form a club that excludes LEGO clone-lovers
because I am limiting the freedom of Dave! to becoming a member?
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Not the same example. What you want to do is forcibly evict Dave! from Lugnet
because he (for the sake of this argument) plays with Brand X, even though he is
not doing it on Lugnet.
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If, say, a community that was a majority of
Gays attempted to ban Christian fundamentalists from their community (“They
aren’t wanted here”) the self-same ACLU would swope down to the defense of
the Fundamentalists.
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Doubtful. But even if they did, on what grounds?
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Not doubtful at all - they have defended conservatives. It just seems as if
they are only defending liberals because the conservatives are the ones trying
to abridge individual freedom more often.
The grounds? The exact same as the original article.
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It’s the big joke-- everybody is intolerant of something-- it’s just that
Liberals can’t acknowledge theirs!
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The big joke is that conservatives can’t see that being a jerk, and can’t
standing a jerk, aren’t the same things.
-->Bruce<--
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