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Re: K, in even simpler terms, for those of us who hate seeing death and killings and such...
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Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:23:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > >
> > > > If you see this, and you're slowly convincing me that your interpretation of
> > > > what's going on is true, so now I see it, how come this isn't common
> > > > knowledge to the rest of the masses?
> >
> > > A combination of a need to conform and political apathy.
> >
> > Actually, I would say that it stems from an awareness that someone has
> > already made up Bush's mind to attack Iraq, as well as an awareness of the
> > futility of trying to prevent it.
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> If true, I would view that as a rather apathetic outlook. ;)
Not at all! I'm quite upset about it, but I still recognize the futility.
I suspect that many of My Fellow Americans feel the same. "Apathy" suggests
that we don't care, when in fact we do (some, very strongly). I know you're
semi-kidding (hence the wink), but I wanted to underscore the point.
> > Anyone who even suggests that we should wait before rushing in is publicly
> > condemned as a coward or an anti-American or a politicizer or simply a fool
> > who can't see the obvious,
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> Indeed, the need to conform is strong. ;)
Again, I see the wink, but I'd like to clarify. If non-conformity results
in the loss of one's job or respect or well-being, or if non-conformity
causes one's family to lose such things, then it's a bigger issue than
simply running with the crowd. The Bush administration is desperate to make
this a polarizing litmus test while simultaneously pretending that they're
doing no such thing.
Saddam's not likely to launch any initiatives against Israel or the US in
the next month. That's why I say we should wait until after the next round
of Congressional elections so that none of this "anti-American" mudslinging
affects the Iraq vote.
> I prefer to let the UN vote on it. After all, your servicemen are old enough
> to decide what is right or wrong.
UN aside for a moment, what I meant was that the Congress seems eager to
send other people's offspring into combat, but I wonder if they'd be so
willing to sacrifice their own.
> > By the way, this issue is further evidence that the Democrats and
> > Republicans, though similar, are *not* interchangeable.
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> People who claim the two main parties in the UK are “just the same”, are one
> of the biggest causes of political apathy (IMO). I expect the same can be
> said in the USA
I thought you all just genuflect to The Queene and sip your tea in one
big, happy House of Commons? 8^)
Dave!
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