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(...) Actually I knew this -- but she also appears fairly regularly on the 700 Club so I still think she is an Xtian nutcase. We could certainly say she has enormous right-wing Xtian nutcase sympathies. Without looking it up, because I don't care (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was unclear--my bad. You're 100% correct that there's no real script for her show, so I should have been more precise in my accusation. It's been documented that the Rush Limbaugh radio show, for example, screens its callers, and I believe (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A minor digression... You *do* need to make further observations to determine if it's true that the hammer would fall. Either you would need to make your deduction based on your witnessing of the descent of the hammer from your hand to the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Please don't call me Shirley. How does one explain the movie "Airplane" to anyone else? It's one of my favourite "funniest of all-time" movies... it comes across like the Stooges, but (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well you seemed to have figured that out (again?? this time?? (1) ) faster than I used to do.. only what, 40-50 posts in that thread between the two of you? Contrast that with me and he(2), we've managed to spin out hundreds of posts in one (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is faulty-- she is Jewish. -John (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now there's a question worth pursuing... A local DJ (Derringer in the mornings on Q107--Toronto's Classic Rock station--shameless plug for my favourite radio station) decided to call up Harpo productions after the Emmy's to see if he could get (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hahaha! Guilty. I'm amused that he seems ("seems": I don't read his posts any more, but I do note what message he is replying to) to be going back and arguing with old posts of mine since I'm not posting new ones to him. I mean, pathetic. (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, it does make one wonder doesn't it? On a certain level Dr. Laura *recreated* herself a while back as an Xtian nut/therapist. My memory may be faulty here, but I don't think she has ANY of the perceived credentials that one would normally (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And my point still stands--whether I'm citing West Wing, the DOI, the Bible or just common sense, what does it matter where the cite came from--if the cite is Just, proper and gosh darn it, makes alotta sense, why does it matter where it came (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> My point stands. You're welcome to get your ideas about reality from wherever you like, including from TV shows that force feed bias while pretending to be balanced... Just don't cite them in (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I were to pose the hypothesis--"If I were to let go of a hammer, the hammer would fall. I do not have to watch the hammer fall to see that this is true."--what does it matter *where* this hypothesis came from? This line (paraphrased to be (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. I trust you're not claiming that the Dr. Laura Show is fictional as in "written and acted out". She does host a radio show, people do call in, and she does respond to them as presented. The relative merits of said show are of course (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the point is that Leo perceives that people are distressingly apt to get their political views from fictional programs. No doubt Leo would include such fictions as the 700 Club and Rush Limbaugh's daily spew, as well as the film (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I remember a relatively huge controversy amongst the legal profession--"L.A. Law does not show what it's really like in the legal profession." A radio DJ at the time quipped, "WKRP is nothing like how a radio station works either, but I still (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course! But it had to be salt obtained through the government purchasing system, which effectively brought the price to about $65 per pound. Maggie (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ROFL. I just hope that's not true. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are putting words in my mouth again. (...) I was not referring to an attack. If you were, I misunderstood you. (...) A dodge? (...) You seem to be under the impression that I should jump through your hoops. I'm not trying to deceive (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I saw his column today in the Grand Rapids Press. So I thought I'd share it with you. But of course to just cut and paste it in here is copyright infringement, not fair use, so if you want to see what he thinks, you'll have to follow a link. Here's (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hell, no! I AM the PINKO, ANTI-CHRIST! }:) ...okay, I admit I was just exaggerating -- I am not actually a pinko. -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I take your meaning, then it sounds like it worked as well as any other ritual. Was each applicant also required to throw salt over his left shoulder? Dave! (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't work very well, did it? :-) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and here it is [it looks abridged]: (URL) has also written other reports from Argentina/ S. America; just search for her name on the site. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) You are misrepresenting me. (...) That's my informed opinion. (...) <snip> (...) Yeah. Yeah. Just keep jumping to conclusions. On 911 only one country on the planet was really talking to MO. About the 1st thing Bush did when he got out (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was either he or Truman-- no, wait, Truman was the guy who made all Federal workers swear on a stack of Bibles they aren't Communists.... Maggie C. (23 years ago, 1-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No truer words were ever written. The North American Game Preserve -- replete with X-Box, 17" flatscreens, downloaded porn, the boat in the drive, the BMW-Mercedes-whathaveyou parked behind it, a room full of lego... ...hey, that could be my (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wasn't he the "one nation, under God" guy? Dave! (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am refering to the majority of Americans. I get the impression that they are comfortable so they do not care. (...) Well I was thinking: privileges = lavish consumer goods and services, false sense of security, etc. principles = civil (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The imperialism angle reminded me of this piece on the "Pax Americana": (URL) Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. As far as we know(1), the M1A1 hasn't been used in real combat anywhere other than desert terrain. It was designed for deployment to the tanker's paradise of Northern Europe though, right? 1 - this is an important caveat. fnord. (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think this is an accurate description at all. Americans do ACT and they often pay a much higher price than you might imagine. (...) Hmmm, I don't know this one. But if the equations are: privileges = rights (as is done in a lot of case (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So in Iraq, the majority of people want to do something but they can not. In the US, the majority of people can do something but they do not want to. My head hurts. I guess it is as Eisenhower said: "A country that values its privledges above (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A dodge? You mean you don't want to explain your bunker-buster comment, tell us what the USA's official response to SH gassing his own people was, why you want to view Iraq in isolation or even what is “all Britain's fault”? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, that is bad. But how about imprisoned with all of your attorneys? (URL) about jailed without bail, right to an atty, or the possibility of a writ of habeas corpus? I'll leave it to Larry P. to provide the cites should the need arise (you (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know, now that I think about it, has the M1A1 been used in combat anywhere *except* desert terrain? Regardless of Desert Storm Part Deux, I suppose a case could be made for sand camo as the "default" color for that kit. Tamiya's had a nice (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.military)
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Unfortunatly it looks like the link wraped so copying and pasting will be nessecary. (URL) interesting article. Especially considering he recognizes Bush's real motivation. -Mike Petrucelli (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Debate?! Bah! You're only sending it there because you're afraid to face me on my home turf of ot.clones! Dave! (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) the gatekeepers never learn? Get out of the way! My latest cd purchases included stuff by Lydia Lunch, Medieaval Baebes, Lou Reed, Poe, Tim Buckley, and Murder Inc. Did I need the radio, MTV, VHI, or the music press (such as it is) to locate (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not quite, but that would nice. :) The quote above only tells us that Bruce is against a "unilateral attack on Iraq", not that Bruce does not share Bushes selfish unilateral outlook as far as the wider world is concerned. The difference is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just ignore him. We both now he'll never concede anything. The guy has no shame. Bruce (23 years ago, 30-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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