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  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I'm certainly not an atheist, but if I were to decide to choose "sides" in this very small, very insignificant disagreement, I would have to side with him. Little footnotes at the end of a message just aren't that big a deal, especially worded (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Well I thought I was going to sit this one out - it hits a little too close to home being a PK (1) and all. But what Mike spelled out above seems to pretty well capture my thoughts. I'll add the following rambling... There is no escaping the (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I don't believe that Atheism acknowledges the possibility of a god. That would be Agnosticism. At least my particular brand of Atheism doesn't. Any mention of the possibility of the existence of a being more perfect than any other by me has (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Try Hindus or Buddists, (...) Buddhists are atheists, actually. Assuming a single, omnipotent being..... All religion has one root, from which stems numerous flavours. Too many similarities exist amongst all beliefs (and lack of, as appropriate!) to (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Also sprach Larry Pieniazek: : I am quite satisified that the impossibility of a god existing has been : proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. And most(1) theists agree. After : all, they state that one must put aside logic and take things on faith, (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) And I thereby prove my point! (Or so I think.....). You sternly state a disbelief in a god, or a being more perfect than yourself. (Perhaps less imperfect might be a more useful term here, lest someone thinks this is an attack on you (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
I know a guy who's an agnostic, dyslexic insomniac. He lies awake at night wondering if there is a dog. JSA (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) By that logic, there are a whole bunch of really cool Lego elements that exist that I don't seem to be able to get hold of, like those 1x4x5 thin walls with train windows in them [1] and of course, train window & door service packs. Also, (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I'd be willing to argue that you are not, but I'd defend your right to hold your wrong-headed beliefs if you insist on illogically professing your faith in your supreme being-given right to do so. (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) yes well, there's plenty of promo sets nobody knows anything about - who says the silver Metroliners weren't a promo available just in northern alaska from Exxon tank stations for those clients buying over 1 million barrels of oil? Jasper (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Could you expand on that first sentence? If you meant to say that it is impossible to prove by logic the existence or nonexistence of gods, then many (1) theists would surely agree, but if you mean that it has been proven that gods do not or (...) (26 years ago, 15-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I'm gonna retract this, it was said hastily. It's difficult to prove or disprove the existence of out of system things starting from within a system. But I'll say that I've personally satisfied myself of the implausability of the Christian (...) (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Oh, I am quite satisfied he existed, just not as or in the fashion as described in the bible. Artistic license is possibly the best way to describe the acts and miracles with which he is attributed. The absence of him having been recorded by (...) (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Richard Dee wrote: < Jesus existed.> Agreed. < Jesus was not the son of god.> Agreed. (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) OK, since Larry is more elequent than myself and arguably better educated, does this mean that he is superior to me and thus my god? I now bow down to the Great Larry. (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Duane Hess wrote in message ... (...) premise (...) I had feared this might have been the interpretation, thought about it as I wrote it, but decided to leave it in. Vastly more superior....open to interpretation as to what comprises "vastly more," (...) (26 years ago, 16-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Thanks, but please no idol worship (or idle worship either, for that matter).... My feet are made of clay. :-) (and still have brick imprints from the last time I stepped on one). However, if I WERE a god, why then, I'd have all the train (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) What about those who send you thousands of bricks? (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <36786104.B40D0C10@c...AM.com>... (...) I don't think I've sent any train windows to you - someone else got that model team set with the windows, IIRC. Oh well, I guess I'll be down at the feet of Larry with the (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Actually before folks decide to become "Larritarians" :) they should wholly examine these points which can be applied to any religious figure claiming to be something more than man: 1. He's deluded; 2. He's insane; 3. He is who he says he is; (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Depends on the bricks, of course, but anyone who sends thousands of bricks AS A LOVE OFFERING (1) certainly will be held in my highest esteem. (2) 1 - which rules you out, since I pay you for the thousands you send me. 2 - and I have some (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
Arg. This thread ("The meaning of Christmas", etc.) was okay in lugnet.off-topic.debate, but please, please, *please* don't bring it into off-topic.fun. Or at least, please change the subject line so we know it's a fun message, not a debate/flamewar (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) Good point, I felt that at this point this subthread was pretty silly so I set followups here. But I forgot to change the subject line to point out that it had shifted into silliness. Mea culpa. I still will take any and all LOVE OFFERINGS for (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) A silver train window would get you a reputation as a miracle worker, my son. But I REALLY need enough to do a whole Zephyr. I did not do the disclose. I merely acknowledge that there may be those that wish to send LOVE OFFERINGS my way. Is (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) Oo, Latin. Does that mean anything significant? :) (...) If I "tithe" a tenth of all my collection, you are going to help me out with many lego blessings when I need them, right? Including those blessings that I don't even know that I needed (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) What's KO (knock out)? Didn't find anything on your home page starting with a K except Knoebel's... BTW, I need a little money to burn first before I let the market do it for me. :) Gotta change jobs first. From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) (URL) the next time the stock price crosses the 200 day MA going up... (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Wow, the Archangel Michael has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? :) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) As my little brother would say, "my bad." My fault is how I would translate it. (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
<F44o5D.CrL@lugnet.com> <slrn77j9va.jo.cjc@V...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I defer, of course, but I have always thought about it around "culpa" which is the root of culpability, so I (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) culpa, culpae f. guilt, error, fault, defect. in culpa esse - to be to blame (...) Wow, you expanding on my succinct statement. :) Yeah, we're both right, essentially. (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) It wasn't so much as what the term meant, as rather a question of Latin being your "official" language with which you would communicate (with) the masses. :) I shoulda been more clear... From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: lugnet.off-topic.FUN
 
(...) Tua culpa. :) Jasper (26 years ago, 21-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
Larritarians, be of good cheer. I received my first love offering today! Really. Please welcome Gary Louie to the fold. I will cherish the two white and two yellow 2x4 bricks he sent! (26 years ago, 25-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) *Grin* I'm happy that they arrived in time for the holidays! Thought you might enjoy the humor of someone actually responding to the call for offerings. Too bad that postal mail has such a huge latency compared to e-mail and Lugnet. Now, let's (...) (26 years ago, 25-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <3683CA89.66EB9689@c...AM.com>... (...) All Hale Larry! (...) Well come Garry. Chief Profit Moz (26 years ago, 25-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) Gary, whatever you do, don't drink the kool-aid! ;-) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) Urp! Uh...too late! Gary GaryLouie@EarthLink.Net (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
<F4p7nB.J0y@lugnet.com> <3688372C.75D3A8DB@E...hLink.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) you are feeling sleepy... you are feeling very very sleepy. When you awake you will send all your 12v train (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) ROTFLMLO (lips) (...) ROTFLTTFML (trying to find my lips) From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what you can, but behave yourself. We'll have more, right after this. (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) While no one can replace Gary in our hearts <sniff>, I *did* want all Larritarians to welcome John Neal, who presented a love offering to me last night. John gave me a silver 2x4 brick! ++Lar (26 years ago, 12-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) Not wanting to sound too morbid but If John Neal dies in the near future it could spell the end for the cult of Larry. Tim (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
Not wanting to get too serious in .fun, but that comment was tasteless, disrespectful, and not fun. (...) (26 years ago, 14-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
John Neal wrote in message <36C73AFA.FA209EC@us...st.net>... (...) Fair enough, I apologise if I went over the line with that one. Death is a touchy subject with some people and I guess I should know better than to make light of it in a public (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) That post served no purpose. If you were shooting for funny you failed miserably. You managed to hit disrespectful and tasteless with the same shot, though. (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) Yes point taken, I've already apologized, (although for some reason the post didn't join onto the thread correctly, stupid OL express). For what it's worth: <self snipage> Oh forget it, I'll just shut up now. Cheers Tim (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  testing References header
 
test (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.test)
 
  Re: testing References header
 
(...) test (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.test)
 
  Re: testing References header
 
(...) sdfsfdsf (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.test)
 
  Re: testing References header
 
(...) wiefj wejif (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.test)
 
  Re: testing References header
 
(...) wiejf wjeif (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.test)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
Don't fall on your sword too hard. It made me smile, then think "gee, probably not too sensitive of me to smile, was it?" I'm sorry I brought it up too. Gary is gone, there is nothing we can do to change that. Friendship is not a measurable (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
As loyal Larritarians, we are taught to forgive and forget:) Our prime directive, as I interpret the online writings, is "BUILD!" I hear and obey. -John (...) (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) Given the popularity and growth of the Larritarians, do I get any kickbacks/indulgences for thinking up the name? For reference, (URL) McD (who has been known to infrequently pander :) P.S. Should those who sacrifice their bricks inscribe (...) (26 years ago, 19-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
<3683E590.ADA9AD7A@E...hLink.Net> <36C49FE4.7EEDDBCA@voyager.net> <F7DnGD.EJ6@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) ?? I have two converts, total. Not much growth so far. (26 years ago, 19-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
<3683E590.ADA9AD7A@E...hLink.Net> <36C49FE4.7EEDDBCA@voyager.net> <F7DnGD.EJ6@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, Tom, that would be defacing (...) (26 years ago, 19-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Larritarians of the world, unite.
 
(...) <F7DnGD.EJ6@lugnet.com> (...) Hey, that's two more disciples than I have (or would want :)! -Tom McD. (26 years ago, 20-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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