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Re: Copyright/Fair use question
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Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:23:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> If he wouldn't have purchased it a million years, then why would he want
> you to give a copy to him?
What if it's just a loan (like the library does)? What if I want him to
check out this really cool live recording of Pink Floyd at Pompeii -- so I
dupe it and give him the copy? My point being that his interest is minimal,
but he'll give it a shot based on my opinion.
Your car analogy doesn't work, nor does the lego analogy because they are
things that are not easily duplicated -- the thing itself is not replicable.
Books are not as easily replicated as are music, video, software...
> I have a friend who really likes the new Blacksmith's Shop but wouldn't in
> a million years pay to own it, is it okay for me to photocopy the
> instructions and give them to my friend?
Gee, it's one of the better deals out there right now too! But according to
TLC's own statements on this via Brad J. -- the instructions can be made
available upon the release of the set. The fact that such material is not
already part of the scans database is a self-imposed limitation set by K.
Loch and whomever else gets to decide that they will not post scans until
after 3 years of the item being in the marketplace.
Getting back to the subject at hand: I didn't rent or buy the DVD "Hedwig"
-- but someone loaned it to me and now I think it's one of the better films
of the recent past. Nobody made dime one on this thing from me. Arguably,
I need never rent or buy it, as I have already partaken of it's pleasures as
I have already "seen" it. How far does this stuff go? Can one not loan
something one has purchased for oneself? Do all other viewers need to buy
it for themselves? Can the current DVD owner have a "Hedwig" party where
friends gather to drink, laugh, and socialize around a viewing of this film?
As it turns out, I know the legal answers to those questions. There is grey
area, and there is even what people actually do in reality -- laws be damned.
As a former English major myself, my whole degree career was predicated on
reading and quoting from works I never intended to own -- and yet every
conceivable benefit was had from "loaned" copies of the works in question.
Yes, I have a vast private library of books on critical theory -- but a
larger set of such works was needed for some of my research. Some of the
books I referenced from libraries are LONG out of print. Where does one
draw the line?
And can you draw the same lines for works currently in print? Can you apply
the same reasoning to CDs, video, and MP3s?
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) Well, first off, if it's the same version of Pompeii that I have, then you have my sympathy for some really poor sound quality. If it's not, then you have my envy for a really cool disc. As I understand it (and of course I'm a board-certified (...) (23 years ago, 8-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Rather than try and respond to specific points, I'm going to try an lay out my thoughts. Richard and Christopher have raised some interesting issues. Clearly the ideal is that the creator of a work get fairly compensated. This suggests that the more (...) (23 years ago, 8-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If he wouldn't have purchased it a million years, then why would he want you to give a copy to him? If you're giving a copy to him because he wants it but wouldn't in a million years deign to purchase it, then it's theft. Same with books and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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