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Re: Pledge (was Re: Flag Burning)
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Fri, 20 Jul 2001 05:27:34 GMT
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
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> > Christopher Weeks wrote:
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> > > > If I am remembering correctly, the ACLU was trying to have it • removed from
> > > > schools because it mentions God.
> > >
> > > I think that some people want it gone for that reason, but I • think that's
> kind
> > > of dumb and petty.
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> > I wouldn't call a religious based argument dumb and petty
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> What I really mean is that I think the God phrase is a relatively • trivial
> point. I was raised as an athiest. I refused to say the pledge as • a kid in
> school because of the God thing. It caused me all kinds of hassle, • and I kept
> a straight line and simply refused. I understand how people would • get in a
> tizzy about it if they feel like they're being forced to sanction • superstition.
> But I still think that the issue of brainwashing our children into
> nationalistic compliance is much more disturbing. Far, far more • significant
> than the seperation of church and state issue.
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> If God is your only beef, that could just be removed. But expecting • the pledge
> to be recited by kids in schools would still be evil.
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> Chris
Personally when I recited the pledge in school it went like this: "I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to
the Replublic for which it stands, one Nation ... indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all." I felt, and still feel, that there was
a contradiction in the pledge stating "one Nation under God" and "with
liberty and justice for all."
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| (...) Call me wacky, but I'm sort of OK with reciting the pledge, once you're old enough to know what you're committing to, and with the proviso that you can leave the godstuff out. I like the US. Even with all the injustice and repression and (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) kind (...) What I really mean is that I think the God phrase is a relatively trivial point. I was raised as an athiest. I refused to say the pledge as a kid in school because of the God thing. It caused me all kinds of hassle, and I kept a (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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