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Pledge (was Re: Flag Burning)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:51:27 GMT
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Christopher Weeks wrote:
> > If I am remembering correctly, the ACLU was trying to have it removed from
> > schools because it mentions God.
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> I think that some people want it gone for that reason, but I think that's kind
> of dumb and petty.
I wouldn't call a religious based argument dumb and petty (even if it is being
asked for on nonreligious grounds, i.e. separation of church and state, or "what
about the atheists?"), it might get a whole new thread going ;-)
Oops, too late.
> The real reason to be done with it is that requiring any
> kind of pledge of affiliation of children is antithetical to a free society.
> if our nation and our way of life can not stand against the next generation's
> free thought and inquiry then things ought to change. We should never require
> or even encourage such oaths. That way is stagnation.
Sure, I agree, but a major objection I have to it is the religious overtones.
(I also don't agree with "In God We Trust" on US money, either)
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| (...) kind (...) What I really mean is that I think the God phrase is a relatively trivial point. I was raised as an athiest. I refused to say the pledge as a kid in school because of the God thing. It caused me all kinds of hassle, and I kept a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Flag Burning
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| (...) As I understand it, that is a fairly typical experience. (...) I think that some people want it gone for that reason, but I think that's kind of dumb and petty. The real reason to be done with it is that requiring any kind of pledge of (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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