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Bruce (And all you McClain supporters out there), I am just wreathing at the Microsoft debacle, and now we go in on the McCain debacle. What is it? Is this not decided already? This sounds like a leftist whine fest. "Ah, gee whiz, he lost!" I have a (...) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Compassionate conservative." When push came to shove, he ran as far right as he could and tried to declare McCain a liberal (I would hardly declare Clinton a liberal, much less McCain). (...) People are always trying to paint their opposition (...) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, (...) system (...) The one he is for, yes. (...) Wow, there is a surprise. (...) I disagree with Mccain on his campaign finance reform because it is the same line leftist have being saying for years. It hurts how the Republican National (...) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can't we think of something better? (...) So when I'm convicted of a capitol crime and am put to death for it, even though I didn't do it, that's not an infringement on my rights? I disagree. (...) Sure, just like you could surrender to the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And your friends from church take what stance on bags? And what about on cars and the environment? (...) This implies to me that you see right-conservatives favoring liberal positions on a regular basis. IS that what you mean? Which liberal (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're saying that campaign finance reform is a leftist topic? I don't think so. Gore isn't really reform-minded. In general no establishment politicians are going to be. If McCain truely is, then he's an exception. (...) Are you claiming that (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) on (...) election. (...) I don't think so. We shall see. The polls still favor Bush, as far as I have seen. (...) Well, campaign finance is a HUGE one, for starters. I think the whols system is gfarbage, and putting the government in more (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) if (...) say (...) on (...) think (...) that's (...) What I meant is that I was talking about abortion, and I didn't feel like going over this again, because I think we discussed this before. (...) Well, it is war, and killing is involved. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, (from Scott, who should really be working rather than staying on off topic) Anyway, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> To: <lugnet.off-topic.de...ugnet.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 10:50 PM (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ^^^^^ Ack! Really folks, that was supposed to be a their. I'm up past my bed time. Chris (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: [snip] (...) I certainly wonder that. He was there only chance of winning the election. We'll be welcoming (or whatever) President Gore next year. Uggh. (...) Ummmm...not the McCain that I (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott, in the past, you have taken offense at my writing and it sounds as if you may be here. If I'm wrong, discount this paragraph, but... I didn't say that zealots only occupied one side of the issue. All issues have zealots on both sides. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Scott, (...) Right, but it's the norm for those who don't want to spend double duty on their children's education. I'm all in favor of school vouchers (or complete privatization, for that matter). But what are you getting at here? (...) Well, it (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce; (Big sigh, and away we go!) (...) again, (...) Well, Clinton was the master of it, it was a Dick Morris idea, btw, and it worked beautifully for him (The era of big government is over. HA!!!...!!!) (...) I don't think so, BTW. Anyway: (...) (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, ( I am jumping in this a day or late, oh well!) (...) sort (...) is (...) same (...) Well, telling which schools to send your kids too is very limiting to parents, and schools do teach a morality of their own, regardless if it is Christian or (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, (...) on (...) just (...) I wonder what you are truly saying here, Chris. Zealots are on both sides of the abortion issue, both for and against. I don't think murdering people for most reasons is acceptable (outside of capitol punishment or (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) on (...) current (...) so (...) Well, it really depends on what you would consider personal freedom. Should the government be involved in things? No. Look at the census, for example. What time do you go to work and what time d you come back. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They (...) these (...) Classic liberalism, yes. Current liberalism, no. The current definition is reflected in the LP quiz, where liberal is on the left, not the right. When I say liberal, it is on the left. When I say classical liberal, I (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I clearly think that a 2d is better than a 1d whether closed form or open... whether more than 2 dimensions are needed is unclear. But libertarians introduced more dimensions precisely because we don't FIT on a 1D... we're not modern (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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