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(...) Certainly not marriage! What on earth are you talking about John? Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What do you propose? JOHN (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I had forgotten all about (URL) freedom fries>: “It was a culinary rebuke that echoed around the world, heightening the sense of tension between Washington and Paris in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. But now the US politician who led the (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Frank, give him some credit. It is pretty hard for him to illustrate his well thought political philosophy with a series of focus group derived sound bites. ;) It always amazes me how the American-Right is eager to kill anything (e.g. criminals, (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Quoted from: (URL) so is Bush going to turn into a pacifist? Or does this only apply to medical science and not weapons science? Or does it only apply to the research itself and not the use of the technology developed? Frank (19 years ago, 24-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying the above section appeared in the above URL? If so, they've edited it since then, as I do not see that section in the full article (at least when loaded in Firefox just a couple of minutes ago). -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ (...) (19 years ago, 22-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm. Forget the the; not the the, the the. JOHN (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) it's YOUR responsibility to clean up any URLs that, because you switch, look icky. I've left it icky so you can see your crime, the underbars are throwing off the underlining and making it look all wonky. Worse, a plaintext link, by itself, is (...) (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, there goes your argument! ;-) Yeah, invoking He-who-must-not-be-named (and I don't mean Voldemort) was a mistake and Santorum has already admitted it (I heard him say it live this morning on the air), but that still doesn't change the (...) (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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From: (URL) Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania countered, "It's the equivalent of Adolf Hitler in 1942." He said Democratic protests over Republican efforts to ensure confirmation votes would be like the Nazi dictator (...) (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dateline Grand Rapids, MI... The Bush team must have thought this was a pretty safe photo op for their fearless leader... Calvin College is among the most christian institutions in one of the most solidly conservative/republican areas in the entire (...) (19 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doh! Apparently I've lost my bearings once again. How embearassing! Truly a kodiak moment. Dave! (hereby abandoning the grizzly remains of my argument) FUT ot.pun, alas! (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suspect you might be right about that: (from (URL) ) "Arthur Schopenhauer (February 22, 1788 – September 21, 1860) was a German philosopher. " ...so, unless he was WAY ahead of his time, probably not a big 'nethead... (...) I think you're (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You and DaveE have already pegged this correctly; the listed strategies are tailored for "winning the audience" rather than "persuading one's opponent." I'm not very well versed in Schopenhauer, but I have the vague sense that he didn't use (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) The Score:> Gorgeous George Galloway 1 Lickspittle Republican Senator 0 (URL) The truth(?):> "The US was not only aware of Iraqi oil sales which violated UN sanctions and provided the bulk of the illicit money Saddam Hussein obtained (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah... #3! Very good! No, seriously, I think elsewhere on the page it is asserted that the entire material is an acknowledgedly poor translation from the original German. (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ROSCO (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly! Which is why I think many of them do get used here! When I read this list I was reminded of your "debate card" of a few years back, and I was doing a little scoring in my head as to who among the regulars here used how many. (1) 1 - (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To a certain extent, I think I've used: 1, 4, 9, 16, 20, 25, 32, 33 Of course, as regards #1, I'm usually an advocate of testing the extremes of any given theory. Hence, I'll typically show the extremes of my *own* propositions as well, to (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thirty - Eight Ways to Win an Argument from Schopenhauer's "The Art of Controversy" (URL) via a link from (URL) ... surely one of the most clever URL choices out there! (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, the gov't could free up a bunch of military dollars if they'd abandon the ill-conceived, ill-designed, ill-executed, and ill-befitting-the-modern-world Missile Defense System. After that, the gov't could abandon the policy of (...) (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"...But don't close my state's pork farms, er, bases!" (URL) love it! (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. What excuse do white guys have for owning guns? I'm not sure that the state of law enforcement in 1962/3 Alabama justifies gun ownership in 2005… especially given the number of gun thefts and juvenile shootings in the USA. Scott A (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The USA gave him WMD. That is a fact. (...) None of which supports the USA's Foreign Policy with respect to those nations & regions. (...) See the bottom of (URL) this post>. (...) Do you care to expend on that? There is plenty of proof that (...) (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not so much law as it is being integrated into the base curriculum in a few states. Mostly southern right now, but if the trend continues.... (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is that actually law in some states? That seems a little over the top. Note that kids in several European countries are "forced" to learn English in school. And I also had to learn French in school, although I remember very little of it now. (...) (19 years ago, 13-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <SNIP> (...) Gotta love how languages change. Geno meaning race as in Genus Thus Human = Human Just my take. (...) Yeah, from some capitalist pig, whether that pig was from US, China, Japan, Russia who knows. (...) Meddling in Central America, (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IGDy1E.ynu@lugnet.com... (...) He is probably trying to tell you that your country is/was ruled by idiots with no morals, and that they should be terminated. I think I have to agree on that. /J (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, I admit the Pope was thrown in for good measure (not that he isn't getting smeared by other lefties as a Nazi). What were you trying to say??? What was your point? Merely smear by innuendo? What's your point? What's your point? JOHN (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "to defended" Way to proofread, YahooNews. The least they could have done was throw a (sic) in there. Leaving aside your utterly outrageous and scandalous suggestion that the local authorities might not have been entirely trustworthy, I have (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," Rice said she came to that view from personal experience. She said her father, a black minister, and his friends armed themselves to defended the black community in Birmingham, Ala., against the White (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, I fear you are still dreamin'. I said no such thing. Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not quite (URL) true>. (...) Yeah... but many of the recent conflicts were aided by Washington. Think about how SH got WMD. (...) Tell that to the millions slaughtered at the hands of Washington in South-East Asia. What about Washington's (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmm. I wonder if Mohamed Atta thought the same of the those in the twin-towers? Scott A (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Whilst I can't attest to being Gorgeous Georges biggest fan, I do find it highly questionable that he was not allowed the opportunity to appear before (URL) this committee> to refute the charges laid against him. I understand that his written (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Q1 Did a marine not kill an incapacitated man "deliberately" in "self-defence"? Q2 Is there much of a difference between deliberately targeting civilians and having (URL) disregard> for their safety? Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe I should rephrase that, I believe that If we could trust them to only bomb the begeezers out of each other, we should leave, and simply ignore their existence until the stop the fighting. But they won't keep it within their own (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree that it sounds callous and mean-spirited, and in raw pragmatic terms it's just not a helpful course to pursue. By that same logic, we in the United States have been involved in well over two centuries of continuous war, so anyone could (...) (19 years ago, 12-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, as callous as it sounds, I do believe that after 2000+ years of continuous war in the middle east the term 'innocent civilian' is an oxymoron when referring to that part of the world.. just my mean spirited opinion... Two words: Carpet (...) (19 years ago, 11-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh, just that they go on and on about a car bomb that killed a few dozen innocent civilians, but they don't even mention the residential raids by US forces that kill an equal or greater number of innocent civilians. The car bomb is terrible, (...) (19 years ago, 11-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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