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Re: How many of these have you seen used here?
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Tue, 17 May 2005 21:06:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Thirty - Eight Ways to Win an Argument from Schopenhauer's "The Art of
> Controversy"
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> http://www.searchlores.org/schopeng.htm
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> Found via a link from http://del.icio.us/ ... surely one of the most clever URL
> choices out there!
You and DaveE have already pegged this correctly; the listed strategies are
tailored for "winning the audience" rather than "persuading one's opponent."
I'm not very well versed in Schopenhauer, but I have the vague sense that he
didn't use the Internet all that much, so your assessment makes a good deal of
sense. Of course, today we recognize that most of his 38 strategies default to
"Straw Man" rebuttals and "Ad Hominem" attacks, but they are, alas, still
effective strategies when debating before a crowd, whether that crowd is the
LUGNET.ot.debate readership or the nationwide audience for the Presidential
debates. Schopenauer pegs it thus: "For it is with victory that you are
concerned, not with truth."
Here's my quick, confessional take on the strategies:
In this forum I've been demonstrably guilty of 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, 16, 26, somewhat
guilty of 25, and arguably guilty of 32 and 33.
Anyone else care to make such a soul-bearing admission?
Fun stuff!
Dave!
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| (...) I suspect you might be right about that: (from (URL) ) "Arthur Schopenhauer (February 22, 1788 – September 21, 1860) was a German philosopher. " ...so, unless he was WAY ahead of his time, probably not a big 'nethead... (...) I think you're (...) (20 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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