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  Remember This?
 
Remember (URL) this>?: "Critics of Bush Administration policy in Iraq have chastised the Pentagon for relying too heavily on questionable prewar intelligence from exile groups, particularly the Iraqi National Congress, about weapons of mass (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Hmmm, I thought it was a bit long winded and sort of lost track at the per capita part. In my politically incorrect world it seems a large part of the problem is those darned capitas. The third world produces so many of them it messes up the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: <snip> (...) Now this is why I hang out here.. Very nicely stated, Richard. Dave K (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) Entertaining, but I only got a little ways in when I hit this. A.C.: "One can assume the director of the Nigerian Department of Tourism isn't too pleased. Winning the pageant site had been an uphill battle from the beginning. Some of the more (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) I see in this post this suggestion advanced again. I think I have seen it before. It goes well with this one that John prepared earlier: (...) I mentioned that I saw a structure and underlying logic in some of Scott's posts, and felt bad for (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ominous Parallels - or - "losing" the debate with the very first post(1)
 
(...) Have you actually read the whole thing? (URL) freaking enormous! And it uses a lot of big words too. What I'm wondering is, assuming you haven't read the whole act, what makes you trust an interpretation that immediately invokes that meme you (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Wow, you folks are sensitive. I thought the typo and the bizare link from google were kinda funny. I even added a smiley to go with the winky, but lugnet squashed my attempt to set FUT to .fun. Gotta figure out how to do that. Anyhow, the only (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
 
(...) (URL) Here's> a fun little site (no longer current, but archived) that dissects Ms. Coulter's spew. Worth checking out for anyone mistakes Coulter for a legitimate journalist or worthwhile commentator. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) C /be/have been/ (...) Too bad we've deviated so far from that in the 200+ years since then. c.f. the Patriot Act for instance. ++Lar (who just got a telemarketing call from the GOP with one of those quasi surveys... after answering a few (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  our local rhino
 
(...) Sadly, our local rhino died just a few days ago. We are RZSS members pretty much because of Kruger; so the zoo was rather empty without him last weekend ;-( His mate, Umfolozi (AKA (URL) "Floozy">), looked pretty sad. Scott A (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
Can anyone tell me exactly what this is achieving? Is there any sort of aim to these attacks on me? Is this “constructive” Don? Should I just ignore him? Is his behavior acceptable? Is he obsessed by me? Should I be flattered by the attention? (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Then we may be the same. Our FF were very wary of government and set up our Constitution to basically protect the people's freedom from the government they were establishing. Our heritage is colorful, but not for the same reasons as yours;-) (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Ha! No convicts in my line as far as I know (I'm sorry to say), but definitely some displaced Irish, downtrodden English, and the odd Scot. Mind you, that was all a long time ago, and its not like genealogy has been a big interest in my family (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Which reminds me of (URL) this> (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: **snip** (...) **snip** (URL) On a related note...> 8^) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) are you an assiduous and malintentioned nitpicker? If not, I wasn't talking to you Scott, apologies if you think I was, but therefore I wasn't insulting you. If you are, then, by your own admission, identifying you as such isn't an insult, (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I use google, and you're right, I did need to look up the first biggie. Unfortunately the top link from google didn't help much: (URL) of assidious> Or maybe that was sneaky debator's trick for calling someone an insidious @$$ and passing it (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
The Guardian has today published a number a letters written on and around D-Day by those involved. They are mostly from the UK nationals, but also from some the USA, France & Germany This paragraph stood out as it sums up the popular perception of (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) You called me a liar. All I'm asking is that you either justify that or apologise. It is that simple; it is a matter of etiquette. This is the last time I intend to ask. (...) Have you read your posts over the last 48 hours? At one point 7 out (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) They love it; most of their grandparents were convicts. ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) See? I told you Australians hate freedom. Dave! (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: (snip) I explained what happened, I admitted fault, and I apologised for it. If it doesn't fit the format of the apology you want, or doesn't fit the facts as you imagine them to be, tough. Take it or (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Is this really the best explanation you can come up with after 15 months? That is not how it (URL) looks>. It looks like you tried to pass someone else's words off as your own (plagiarism) and infringed their IP rights in the process. Read (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Its an interesting observation about the similarities between Scott and teenagers, and to my mind not nearly so negative as Larry might cheekily imply by ignoring them. Even more telling is the truly American approach of simply filtering out (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Appy polly logies (was Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I sent you 3 or 4 already, and that exhausted my stock. Sorry, I'm fresh out now. :-) XFUT .fun because I hope this was in fun... (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) I'm surprised, ->Bruce<-, that you'd even recognize humility in a leader, given whom you recently voted into office;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) Hey! That's way better than the lame excuse for an apology I got when you accidentally censored me! I demand an apology! ;^) Don (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What about the first?
 
(...) It turns out that if you leave a few words out of the search (URL) get a lot of sites with cites, most of which say that Churchill was talking about Clement Atlee, not Chamberlain, and most of which have a different wording. My memory of the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) Yup, the UK's pretty bad too - VAT at 17.5% on most goods (included in the price though), the fuel tax is incredibly high (about 86%) plus you have to pay road tax just to have your vehicle on the road. Alcohol and Tobacco taxes are high as (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Ominous Parallels - or - "losing" the debate with the very first post(1)
 
I found this link on Little Gamers ((URL) and it bugs me a bit... because I think they're right. (URL) know I've ranted against the Patriot Act before. Nothing has changed my opinion. It's bad through and through. 1 - re the "losing" comment... read (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) Builtin taxes: gasoline, other fuels, alcohol, cigarettes (at least). I think about 90% of gasoline price is various taxes. health security (in fact a tax) social security (in fact a tax) tax from immobilities (is it 'personal property tax'?) (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
 
(...) I'd encourage this subthread to migrate away from the current groups and into off-topic.debate if it goes too much further into comparative analysis of countries... I XFUT there already. (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  IT = Interrogation Technology??
 
"Army's use of IT contract to hire U.S. interrogators in Iraq questioned" (URL) ran across this on an EDI list I'm on, if you can believe it...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) I suggest you read (URL) this> and then apologise. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Scott's been trotting that old canard out against me for years. I'm surprised and disappointed that he's trying to use it against you too now. My advice? Just ignore it, unless you want to make a complaint under announce/1629 yourself. I (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shrek 2
 
(...) I'm more concerned about the indoctrination of the 4yo than I am about the 13yo being exposed to the reference he/she already understands. Kids today are being taught more and more about sexuality at a younger age -- the problem is they're (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Is that me? My vocab isn't what I wish it was, but I thought it was called something different when you substitute just a few of your own words. Kinda like Weird Al singing "Eat It", but not quite. Oh well, you're the PhD here, so you must be (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
This one's for Mike P! (...) I thought it was a Gone With The Wind/Star Wars reference: Rhett or Ric Olie. Dave! FUT OT.Deja-Vu (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: work-pages & bridge postcards
 
(...) Look again. (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's a freedom fighter?
 
(...) Your posts yesterday suggest otherwise; 6 out of your last 7 have related to me. As an aside, there is something upsetting about having one's posts discussed by the only two (URL) plagiarists> I know on LUGNET. Before you both continue this (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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