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(...) So you deny that SH supported terrorists? How about the little stipend he offered families to have them sacrifice their children as human incendiary devices? (...) "How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?" Thanks for (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think the English know something about where arrogance will get you. Zulu wars, US revolution, Barbarian hordes to the north (Scottish). Something like that. I think we've got to learn yet. Mark (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Uh-huh. You have a link for that, John? I thought not...There is no proof to support any such allegations. That lack of proof is the very issue under discussion. The president spoke in terms of dead certainties and has come up empty-handed. (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I believe that the perceived threat was never from the Iraqi military itself, but from the proliferation of WMD from SH's regime to terrorist elements such as Al Qaeda. JOHN (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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White House 'lied about Saddam threat' (URL) A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. The claims (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) There is common ground between you and I, Richard. I believe that doing the right thing is what matters. And there were naysayers that said that we'd never find anything to agree on. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Let's be clear that this is the backpedaling from the original backpedaling. We shall therefore see an infinite line of small retreats without anyone in the White House daring to admit that they were wrong to do anything anyway. Smoke and mirrors. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) House: Uranium claim incorrect " " WASHINGTON (AP) -- Amid questions about prewar intelligence, the White House is acknowledging that President Bush was incorrect when he said in his State of the Union address that Iraq recently had sought (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for the info, I greatly appreciate it. (...) Hence my doubt regading this one: colony refers to settlement, or pure governance? I'll go with the first, in order to restrict the options. (...) You said nothing about independant nations (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote: <snip some good stuff that I didn't know--good geography and history lesson there> (...) Well isn't that the American Dream--get rich quick? Everything is a lawsuit these days--how much is a life (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Funny you should mention one of the biggest 'reactionary measures' your country ever had as your example. WWII was going on well before Dec 1941, and yet the bombing of Pearl Harbour is the day that will 'live in infamy'. Not the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote: -snip- (...) -snip- Um... Torres Strait Islanders being denied Australian Citizenship? I don't think that is the case... or are you meaning those from the coastal area of PNG (who are not Australian (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hawaii was a US territory during WWII, just like Puerto Rico is now. Unlike Puerto Rico, Hawaii had been seeking to become a State back in 1903, with Congress finally giving full consideration to the issue in the 1930's, well before WWII (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm being preciosist here, but what exactly was the status of Hawaii in 1941? AFAIK it only became a state in 1959, and until the late 1800's it was a kingdom. Honest, I got curious when I read this! :-) (...) You may be wrong. The Republic of (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No it wouldn't. The US government, and all lesser related governments (states, counties, cities, townships, etc.) are restricted from making laws that prohibit free speech on public property. No such restrictions are made for private/corporate (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The first important question is whether or not the VHS tape you bid for on eBay was a legal copy of that work. If it wasn't, it doesn't matter how much you paid for it, or even if you received it. You don't legally own a copy of that work. (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mr. King?!?!? What the... Surely the Canadian education system has tought you the difference between Martin Luther (founder of the Lutheran Church in Europe) and Martin Luther King Jr. (assassinated leader of peaceful Black Rights movement in (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hm, yeah, like freedom? Gosh-darn those silly Yanks and their ill-conceived idea that the world should be free of oppression... (...) There are times when being "reactionary" is the only way to prevent great evil. Think how much bloodshed and (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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THE BILL OF RIGHTS The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Action of Second Continental Congress, July 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen United States of America WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I got this from a list I'm on... go to google.com and type in "Weapons of Mass Destruction" as your search string and then hit "I'm feeling lucky". Supposedly it should bring you to this site: (URL) I found pretty funny. YMMV. (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HHDAGy.1AIJ@lugnet.com... (...) purposes. (...) music (...) that (...) growing (...) so it (...) According (...) file (...) could (...) then (...) I don't see what difference that will (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Leech!!! Blubster 2.5 Promises User Anonymity (URL) There has been growing interest in protecting user identities since the US music industry said they would start suing some of the 60 million American's that share music online. Today Blubster (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have no desire for your shirts, laundered or not, I have enough shirts in bad taste as it is. What was your point again? I don't recall denying where you were or weren't. What I was denying is the possibility that a US government source is (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Only mostly concur. Better pay? Better amelioration to families if someone dies in the line of duty? You bet. Not a hesitation in the world. If we want the best armed forces in the world, we need to pay what they are worth and then some. Pride (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Any place you can golf all winter long doesn't have one. Now, if we were talking home, then yep, I can understand the reluctance. Even when there isn't 6' of snow in Jan, the -20C days are a tad chilly. But, the climate here is atually quite (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I didn't think that I would get into an arguing match to try and prove that I spent last summer in the (rather warm) gulf. How do you want me to do so? I have the plane stubs from my flight home, my paystubs, and my wild wadi shirt as proof... (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is this a conspiracy theory, Lar? =) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, why not. But the system is rigged and has been for some time. (...) Hardly. Most government sources are extremely biased. (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I could have sworn that I wrote "winter" and not "snow". I could have sworn that I wrote it in CAPITALS and bold-faced it, too. It's snows every winter in Southern California, I assure you. :-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Love Question Period (at times) No politician can hide behind the position at all--even the PM. Lets see Dubya make it thur an open question period. That'd be the day--not only is he a moron, he's a spineless moron who doesn't face the harsh (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is apparent that you have never considered Victoria, BC. :) We rarely get snow, and you would only have to compete with ~5 of us lugnetters for the specials at TRU. James P (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I _am_ assuming you voted last time around Lar? It is a fault of all democratic systems that there will be those minority (up to 50%-1) that are not happy with their system of representation. There are a wide varity of systems of (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote (...) ROFL! Ever watch the parliamentary debates on TV? Its like a zoo. Everyone is jumping around yelling, with the PM having to shout rebuttals over the general mayhem. Its better than so called (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh, and where did Dave say it was perfect? I do believe he said that we seem to be a better nation (not the best, but better). We don't have a perfect system. You don't have a perfect system. Perhaps we had all better get used to that... James (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Completely concur. Dave K (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Editorial: Nothing but lip service (URL) In recent months, President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress have missed no opportunity to heap richly deserved praise on the military. But talk is cheap - and getting cheaper by the day, judging (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Where are these good people that you speak of? Lynching gays in the midwest? Bashing heads belonging to dissenters in with baseball bats? Sitting in the White House committing atrocity after atrocity in the name of democracy and capitalism? (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And one more article from DU this week: (URL) " And let's not even get into the Weapons of Mass Deception, but let me add that we gave UN inspectors about 3 months to find them, so I hope that by mid-July that The State finds them, cause (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That debating is a waste of time I think goes without saying. But what research are talking about? There's no truth out there -- just competing approximations and opinions. I accept that the news as reported can be a kind of "truth," once (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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