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Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:23:10 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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This tells me that, eventually, society evolves, with or without your
revolutions. Why? Because history so much has taught us this. We came out >
of the cave, we crossed the sea, we expanded our influence to the macro and >
to the micro, and thru it all, we evolved and learned and grew up.
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Where are these good people that you speak of? Lynching gays in the midwest?
Bashing heads belonging to dissenters in with baseball bats? Sitting in the
White House committing atrocity after atrocity in the name of democracy and
capitalism? Carving their “nigger notches” into their favorite weapon?
Maybe you have some of these people in Canada too? Or I guess you really are
better than us...
http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/
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Your ‘gods’ of constitutionalism and ‘Jeffersonianism’ have displaced
any ‘common good’ and ‘social justice’.
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Actually, I’d say neither the U.S. Constitution nor a true Jeffersonian poltical
scene has ever really been given a try. You can thank Hamilton for immediately
muddying the waters of our republic with overt/excessive federalism.
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You sit there and say “Look how great we are! America! We’re numero uno! >
I woudn’t live anywhere else! Our constitution got us here and will take us >
into the future” whilst out of the other side of your mouth you yap about the
insecurity you feel towards your gov’t and your fellow citizen.
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As it should be.
“There are two things a prince should fear: internal subversion from his
subjects; and external aggression by foreign powers.” -- Machiavelli
Taken on a more individual level (since we are all princes in the U.S.): you
have to question every other citizen’s motives, and certainly fear aggressive
political power from every other source.
And you offer us what -- the liberation of the parliamentary system? Where’s my
Robert’s Rules of Order -- oh wait, this is a joke, right???
-- Hop-Frog
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Oh, and where did Dave say it was perfect? I do believe he said that we seem to be a better nation (not the best, but better). We don't have a perfect system. You don't have a perfect system. Perhaps we had all better get used to that... James (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote (...) ROFL! Ever watch the parliamentary debates on TV? Its like a zoo. Everyone is jumping around yelling, with the PM having to shout rebuttals over the general mayhem. Its better than so called (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Somehow I doubt that your version of 'what would have happened' in lieu of the 'revolutionary war' is quite the same idea as my version would be. That said, who knows what would have happened if you didn't have your little tea party, and the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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