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Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
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Date: 
Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:40:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/06/27_democracy.html

"
Alas, that America - Ashcroft's America - is where we now live. We have plunged
headlong into the past. America cringes under the shadow of a militant Homeland
Security Act - a ghostly doppleganger of Adolph Hitler's 1933 "Enabling Act,"
which, to ensure security of the homeland, effectively cancelled constitutional
freedoms of German citizens. Like Germany of 70 years ago, America is a nation
so mesmerized by fear - so uninformed by its corporate media - that our
bipartisan Congress transferred with nary a whimper, and without public debate,
all military, police, law enforcement, judicial, and surveillance powers to the
executive branch, or Reich.
"

But I'm the one that was admonished for "gun laws" that hearkened back to
Germany:

http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=21354

And rightly so, I'd say.

We have the spectacle of Ashcroft and his ilk busily disassembling our freedoms,
with a rigged election system in place to ensure that it is very unlikely that
any non Demopublican will get elected in time to stop it, and you want us to
give up the second amendment, what little we have left of it, as being outmoded.

Here's a radical idea... maybe the founding fathers were thinking ahead, not
being reactive, when they wrote that clause. Maybe they were right and you were
wrong?

Maybe our revolution, paid for with our blood and treasure, paved the way for a
bunch of free rider countries like yours to get away with a bloodless parting
from England.

How much is your semi-freedom worth to you? That much? OK, send us a check since
we paid for it. Or are you OK with free riding after all?



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  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) Somehow I doubt that your version of 'what would have happened' in lieu of the 'revolutionary war' is quite the same idea as my version would be. That said, who knows what would have happened if you didn't have your little tea party, and the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) I _am_ assuming you voted last time around Lar? It is a fault of all democratic systems that there will be those minority (up to 50%-1) that are not happy with their system of representation. There are a wide varity of systems of (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(URL) that America - Ashcroft's America - is where we now live. We have plunged headlong into the past. America cringes under the shadow of a militant Homeland Security Act - a ghostly doppleganger of Adolph Hitler's 1933 "Enabling Act," which, to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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