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(...) What lousy reporting. The guy doing the shooting is in jail, but the article never actually says he is in jail for killing one of the burglers. Nor does it establish why he was convicted even if it was for that incident. Did the burglers turn (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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It's good to know that Republicans are working at restoring faith in the various US institutions.... (URL) Republican majority in the US Congress has rejected calls for a formal investigation into whether the government misread or inflated threats (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) snip (...) And everyone wonders why people "go off their rocker" and bomb and/or shoot government buildings and/or officals. -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not that I watch alotta telly, but on Judge Judy once, a woman was sueing a guy for monies lost because the fradulent deal he suckered her in to went south and she lost money. Judge Judy looked at her and said something like "You want to use (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Shot burglar wins right to sue Martin (URL) I don't claim to know the details of this case beyond what is stated in the linked articles, but I think I have to disagree with some of the broader conclusions reached in the case. A person's home should (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But what was the motivation? All we know is what the Government tells us. (...) So what is your recourse if the Government breaks the law? Besides so long as a single manufacturer of guns exists on the planet, criminals will always have them. (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok. I did not know that. (Obviously.) (...) Within our limited knowledge that is absolutely correct. (...) ...to form 'known' molecules you mean. (...) Ok I will concede that using 'only' what we know, there are a finite albeit massively huge (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) *Ahem* They did what they did because they had the means to do it. Read, guns. I failed to present in the previous examples a doubt that remains in my mind: if the purpose of gun ownership is protection agains the abuses of the government, how (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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control. QED. (...) That's fine. We don't have a right to arm bears. :). It isn't in our constitution that "A well regulated militia...". Or, perhaps we take that to mean that the army should guard the country. Oh, wait. They do. Our army doesn't (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) gee, that'd be strange. Statistics from pre CHA: In 1951 the average life expectancy for a male was 66.5 years and 71 years for a female. From relatively recently: (1991). Life Expectancy at Birth; 74.0 years male, 80.6 years female So, by use (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Considering no one knows why these people did what they did (aside from what the government tells us,) I can not say. (...) 10-12 years ago Canadian medical services and eqipment was equal or greater than that of the US. Today they are a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I could supplement my diet with ABS, I would. Okay, maybe not, though I do have a bucket of old old old lego that appears to have been food for my brother and I when were teeny tiny tots. What's the proper way to serve Lego? Perhaps sushi. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space)
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(...) ...Mightily resisting the urge to call John names!... My most civil response to all of the above is: So what?! Let's leave the dog scenario to the side as it is "species out of bounds." The point of marriage generally is to legally bind people (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nope! but it's a good idea though. Have to be fusion powered I reckon. Steve (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Secularly speaking, I don't know that there's a problem with devaluing marriage. If there is one, I'd like to hear it articulated without appealing to provincial wisdom or religious values. As a matter of secular law, marriage is a contract, (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aren't the courts supposed to be a part of the gov't? There is a process. (...) Ah, so you are a unisex restroom proponent then. (...) Bigot! I and my 4 female lovers and 1 male lover are being discriminated against! Who says it's only between (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Someone has to lead... and if it's not the gov't *and* the courts, than who? Further, *any* law that excludes a person due to his or her sex is sexual discrimination--we're not talking changing the number of people in a marriage--marriage is (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The institution of marriage is devalued, and here is how. If you allow same-sex marriages (remember, this isn't a ban on homosexual marriages), then you open pandora's box WRT to marriage. What about three people who want to get married? How (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This makes interesting imagery :) I can see a lot of people chewing on some 2 x 2 bricks right now. -Anne -- Conformity: Proudly (\`--/') _ _______ .-r-. serving painfully boring >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. people since time began. (v_," ; `,-\ (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space)
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(...) À la Unabomber? Or McVeigh? Or that guy in Ruby Ridge? Or David Khoresh? Or 'Michigan Militia'? Or?... (...) What do you base this assertion on? (Really, I'm curious about it) (...) "Most". Is that comparison valid towards Canada? :-) (...) (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) this is a thing about Canada... so don't worry 'bout it... " It dismisses what it sees as the government's "ridiculous argument" that it needs to go slow in framing any legal changes because there is no "consensus" in Canada. "All Canadians (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What can I say? You set yourself up for the obvious. It needed to be said to draw you off your high horse, but you if you wish to remount... :-) (...) If we continue to pass judgment on it, then the document remains living, not simply a 200 (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You say that like it's a bad thing. But no, I am not, the NRA are misguided, they miss the point when they talk about hunting and home defense. The point is right there in the 2nd amendment. (...) Funny, I often think the same thing when (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then John's right, it IS specious, used in this context. You can't lay 70 years of building up an underclass via income transfer, 50 years of futile drug warfare and increased loss of liberties, 40 years of failed social engineering, 30 years (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The comparison was between leaders, not countries. (...) I think it's bothersome, and hence I pointed it out. (...) I've heard that, but don't know from whom it came. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh I love it when people say that others don't understand... throw the argeuement into question by alluding to ignorance or incompotence... nicely done. I'm well aware of the evolution of the laws. I'm also aware of the ability to strike and (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How so? I don't happen to agree with the conclusion being drawn, or at least implied, (that we are either as bad or almost as bad as DPRK... as if!) but the large number of incarcerations among the underclass strikes me as a sign of oppression (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Steven lane" <steveroblane@aol.com> wrote in message news:HG9vo5.1099@lugnet.com... (...) it's (...) deflected (...) lost (...) of the (...) planet and (...) moving (...) the (...) the (...) sustain (...) Well, if you could surround the planet (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, if this is true, I definitely do NOT want you as President when you hit your 50s - you already spout such narrow-minded ideas here, I'd hate to see you get even more conservative. (Luckily I know that in person you seem to be a completely (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hm, I was going to post something to John on this subthread, but Bruce pretty much summed up everything I was getting ready to type. Nicely said, Bruce. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup. And one which only time will tell. It was done in Nazi Germany and imperialist Japan; it can be done again today. JOHN (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Consequences? We've hardly seen the final outcome! Maybe regime change in the U.S. will bring our young men and women home. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a huge assertion John - as we've hardly even begun to see all the consequences yet. ROSCO (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Totally agree with you Bruce, Riordan didn't excite a single conservative, but he would have run a much better campaign. Simon ran against one of the weakest candidates ever, and he was horrible. I don't think he is personally stupid, just a (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol what I meant was that his question was completely specious to the topic:-) (...) I don't like statistics based on race because I think that they generalize in a way that is unhealthy. We are all Americans. What purpose is there to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, the Republicans are to blame, and on two counts. Instead of putting up Richard Riodan, who could have beat Grey, the right wingers decided he didn't pass the far right litmus test, and put up a total loser that even the incompetent (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh dang, and here I agree, but in the meantime with all those wild-eyed Libertarians out there, should I get the Springfield XD-9, or the Glock 19? (...) No wait, it wasn't about WoMD, it was about the Al Qeada terroist link! We can't prove (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I take it what you meant to write and what you actually wrote are two different things. If you are completely specious, then that means you denial of being a racist is specious, therefore... Teases about unintended sentence structure aside, I (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, you are saying that Canadians will completely trash by 2182 what was written in 1982? That the Canadians of 1982 were incompetent? Sounds like the problem is in Canada, not America. :-) (...) We have methods of change built in. By your (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure you understand the definition of "racism", but to find an example of it, look below: (...) FYI some of the richest Americans happen to be black-- Ask Oprah, or Michael or Tiger, or the 1,000s of other black millionaires. I think (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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