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Re: Git outta my bedroom!!
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Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:41:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2982596.stm

Yes this is a thing about Canada... so don't worry 'bout it...


Devalued the institution of marriage?  What, by letting caring loving couples
partake in the institution of marriage?  Or would Mr Rogusky prefer a ban on
marriages he doesn't approve of?  Stay out of their marriages, Derek, and
they'll stay outta yours.

The institution of marriage is devalued, and here is how.  If you allow same-sex
marriages (remember, this isn't a ban on homosexual marriages), then you open
pandora's box WRT to marriage.  What about three people who want to get married?
How about 4?  If you object to those scenarios, on what basis would you argue?
What about if I want to marry my dog?  Are you then going to discriminate
against me?  Pretty soon the institution becomes meaningless.

This is a societal issue, and I think each society should decide, based on its
values, what they want to recognize.  A salient quotation:

He accuses the Ontario court of "vastly overstepping its boundaries" in a
decision which "shut out" democratically elected representatives.

This is an example of one of my pet peeves-- legislation from the bench.  The
liberals know that the GP would never go for this in any sort of vote, so they
simply create law through judicial fiat.

JOHN

Someone has to lead... and if it's not the gov't *and* the courts, than who?

Further, *any* law that excludes a person due to his or her sex is sexual
discrimination--we're not talking changing the number of people in a
marriage--marriage is b/w *2* people--refusing to allow three isn't sexual
discrimination, or not allowing the coupling of a person with a non-person (say
a dog) is not sexual discrimination

We're talking about joining a loving couple in marriage--to prevent the marriage
based on sex alone is against the law--the rest is just a "straw man" arguement
which has no bearing on the discrimination issue.

Dave K



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(...) Aren't the courts supposed to be a part of the gov't? There is a process. (...) Ah, so you are a unisex restroom proponent then. (...) Bigot! I and my 4 female lovers and 1 male lover are being discriminated against! Who says it's only between (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) The institution of marriage is devalued, and here is how. If you allow same-sex marriages (remember, this isn't a ban on homosexual marriages), then you open pandora's box WRT to marriage. What about three people who want to get married? How (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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