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  Re: Speaks for itself...
 
(...) Joining any party is a compromise. The party system has its good points, but most of the time I wish I were governed by individuals rather than parties stuffed full of "yes-men". (...) If the electorate paid more attention, it would not be (...) (21 years ago, 26-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Speaks for itself...
 
I wasn't really holding the guy up for sainthood, mind you -- there not being too many politicians on the side of the angels. I agree with your assessment of politics as usual. If Byrd is making a bid for a soundbite, at least I am not disagreeing (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Bill o' Rights
 
(...) just have to get me a set of those. :-) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Speaks for itself...
 
Let's try this again. "The Truth Will Emerge..." (URL) truth will emerge"... more like "the PORK will emerge". Byrd may be right about Iraq, for the most part. Unnecessary war, and what appears to be a bungling of the aftermath in a much more (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Speaks for itself...
 
(...) Not exactly. That append got posted before it was finished, my bad. I'll FUT in a sec, including the rest of what I meant to say.... (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Speaks for itself...
 
(...) I didn't see much wrong with a senator appropriating funds 'n stuff for his district--aren't senators suppose to do that? Especially this one, which seems not only good for his district, but good for America. I like Richard's link a little (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Speaks for itself...
 
The Truth Will Emerge..." (URL) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A (not overly serious) parable on US foreign policy
 
(...) <snip> He saved his life, didn't he? :-) JOHN (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A (not overly serious) parable on US foreign policy
 
A few years ago I had a professor who told this tale, which I recount now as close to verbatim as I am able to recall. Any distortion is due to my poor recollection and shouldn't reflect upon the original story. During grad school my future (...) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Speaks for itself...
 
"The Truth Will Emerge" (URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Bill o' Rights
 
(URL) (21 years ago, 23-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Virus Email
 
(...) Well I just received an e-mail offering 27,800,000 e-mail IDs for me to Spam [I expect I'm one of them]. The offer did contain two interesting [if true] "facts": ==+== 1) 41% of Consumers Believe Email is a Good Way to Find out About New (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  weapons inspectors needed
 
Oh my! It appears Bush's weapons inspectors are having no luck finding SH's WOMD. Perhaps when they return to the USA they can be tasked to find some of the stuff the Pentagon has lost; the headliners: + > 1 trillion dollars + 56 airplanes + 32 (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) That is a generalisation. A few years ago I would have disagreed with it strongly, but day-by-day your great country is moving further and further down that path. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Interesting idea...?!
 
(...) 20,000+ of them in one place? Does anyone else find themselves thinking of the Golgafrincham's Ark B? Cheers Richie Dulin (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sex Scandal: U.S. President had sex with Intern!
 
(...) I think that I'd favor a combination of your two definitions, but I must admit that my own definition is hardly ironclad. I'd offer something like this: Tolerance is, at the very least, the acceptance of others without pre-emptively judging (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) You assume I disagree? (...) I'll take that as a "no". I must confess to liking this: (URL) (...) Do you have any evidance which supports that? WW2 was largly a christian effort; the result was 60 million dead. Extreme interpretations of Islam (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Not quite in my backyard, but close enough...
 
"State monitored war protesters: Intelligence agency does not distinguish between terrorism and peace activism By Ian Hoffman" (URL) There had been some very shocking photos that original went with this article but they seem to have disappeared. In (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) I think that first sentence is an overstatement. Israel does not have clean hands, nor does the U.S. We are not as bad as some, but we are hardly innocent any longer. In fact, we (the U.S.) are brazenly guilty of atrocities. The U.S. operates (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) Will you characterize any source with which you disagree as a "rag"? (...) Tangental. (...) The point is that it *isn't* the US and Israel for Muslims. I would say that the root of Islamic terrorism (and the evil in this war on terrorism) is (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) John, will you cite any rag which supports your [narrow] point of view? Have you read the other items on that site? Are they "very encouraging" too? (...) What would you say is the "root of all evil"? Greed? Power? Religious extremism? Envy? (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  plagarism [Re: "Saving" Private Lynch]
 
(...) In what way is the Guardian not "reliable"? You may not find it "reliable", but you do cite it when the text is right [eg]: (URL)The NYT in particular, lies (...) If all that is true, let the market damn them both and FoxNews can prevail! (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Opinions
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) There are "safe needle exchange" places in Canada??? That's it! Heroine, here I come!! Dave K -wow, lookit all the purty lightsssszzz...zzz (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Saving" Private Lynch
 
(...) Are you saying plagiarism is ~OK~. I think that is the wrong sort of signal to send. (...) Ah! So it's Larry who is the plagiarist; I wondered whom he was talking about! ;) Scott A (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Tommy Franks on trial?
 
Well it looks like Tommy Franks may have to carry the can for crimes committed by his troops. Read on: Let's hear it for Belgium (URL) several occasions, US troops appear to have opened fire on unarmed civilians. In Nassiriya, they shot at any (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sex Scandal: U.S. President had sex with Intern!
 
(...) I think that you probably have an okay approach to the issue -- just as long as your ideas about right and wrong are qualified by the concept of right and wrong "for you." Need I mention the many stupid and pointless sodomy laws across the (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sex Scandal: U.S. President had sex with Intern!
 
(...) Wow Dave, this was so old I almost forgot I wrote about this. Alright as it appears that there were some huge misunderstandings in my post let me try to clarify things. First and foremost, I do have core beliefs as to what is right and wrong, (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Opinions
 
"Just where are those weapons?" (URL) embarrassments go, this one is in a league with having your pants fall down on Main Street at high noon. In his State of the Union address, the president managed to give the impression that Mr. Hussein had piles (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
This might prove useful here: "Time to Question the US Role in Saudi Arabia" (URL) in truth, we are long overdue in examining this relationship.] -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) What? Would that be like stupid Saudis beleiving all the nonsense their government/right-wingers tells them? Gee, where else do citizens exhibit that behavior? And anyway, unless I am mistaken about the nationality of the more frequent posters (...) (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) Why don't you take your facetious little poll in Arab countries? Maybe it won't be so easy after all. JOHN (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(...) thought 9/11 was engineered by Americans or Israelis? Today I noticed that the sky appears to be blue, and clouds are often puffy and white. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
 
(URL) is very encouraging. Perhaps the US and Israel *aren't* the root of all evil after all.... JOHN (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sex Scandal: U.S. President had sex with Intern!
 
Annoyingly, I was unable to post to LUGNET for a few weeks and wasn't able to contribute in my usual, brilliant fashion. I apologize for the late response to Scott's posting, but this was just about my first opportunity to do so. (...) It should be (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Saving" Private Lynch
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Well, I don't treat my life like it's made up of binary management--if we remove certain criteria, then we allow *everyting*. I thought it would be inferred by my slam towards the Nat. (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Newsbits
 
"US Compromises at UN but Keeps Control of Iraq Oil" (URL) United States is asking the Security Council to authorize it to do a series of things that would otherwise violate international law under the guise of ending sanctions," said Morton (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Interesting idea...?!
 
"Free State Project" (URL) Free State Project is a plan in which 20,000 or more liberty- oriented people will move to a single state of the U.S., where they may work within the political system to reduce the size and scope of government. The success (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tax relief?
 
(...) But what happened to all of that money in the meanwhile? This is why I despise the republicans. To be honest, we might actually get somewhere with someone if voters could for just once focus on the money -- in a way, all the president should (...) (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tax relief?
 
(...) I definately agree with your last statement, I tend to vote more for Republicans because they often seem to talk like small government types, but rarely act that way when they get into office. True the Democrats give us better social welfare (...) (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tax relief?
 
(...) I am not sure that they are at all related, but I'd rather pursue programs and measures that might actually increase security instead of merely depriving citizens of their constitutional rights or engaging in a frivolous war. "Thousands of (...) (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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