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  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Completely agreed, but blaming Christians because of stupid Christians is as dumb as blaming Muslims for stupid Muslims is as dumb as blaming Athiests for stupid Athiests... My compassion, I like to think, comes from my Christian values, but (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Shrub has made Xtianity the excuse of every depraved thing his administration stands for. I stand behind my comment though further discussion may be futile. Again, and I stress it, wouldn't it be better to simply be compassionate? The (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) Hey Richard, can we not bring Christianity into *one* thread? It wasn't mentioned before and equating Scotts ideas to Christianity is wrongful and unwarranted in this instance. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) No, you bury your head in the sand hoping that unpleasant facts will simply go away. ---...--- "Unprecedented verdict frees Adidas shoe worker in Indonesia" (URL) 1993 a worker named Marsinah, in a situation very similar to Ngadinah's, was (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
This is turning out to be a better thread than I originally surmized--I wasn't sure where to jump in, but here's a good a place as any :) (...) YOur grandpa left an oppressed country to come to "the promised land". My grandparents did the same (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Practicing for use in the states?
 
(...) "US troops 'shoot dead two more Iraqis'" (URL) troops today opened fire on Iraqi civilians for the second time this week as an angry crowd in Falluja protested over an earlier shooting. ---...--- -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Me clueless? maybe on somethings, but I don't thiink this is it, I just disagree with you. The only poor I live off the backs off is my grandparents who left their repressive country for a free nation where inspite of difficulty they were able (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Thank you for pointing out the key fundamental ideological difference between communist/socialists and capitalists. When a person starts a business, what is their primary concern? To make money, any business hoping to stay in business needs to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Did I say that? (...) Who mentioned the USA? (...) ...and who supported him? The "West" perhaps? (...) Hong Kong has [or at least had] one of the freest markets in the world. Have you seen what life is like in that country? I'll stay in (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Wow, you really haven't a clue have you? That's it, just keep living your comfortable american life on the backs of the poor. Energy is limitless... Anybody else want to tackle this one? I am not sure I can do it without getting banned from (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) And so there goes the myth presented by the anti-capitalists, these big fat cat tycoons light their cigars with $100 bills while their employees all slave away in sweat shops. Poor economic conditions in Iraq are the fault of the west? This is (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
(...) Do you extend that to intellectual property? The evidence suggests otherwise. (...) I would have thought that "The principal reason for the failure of capitalism to gain a stable foothold in most of the developing world" is the tendency for (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
 
so opines Khaled Saffuri, saying "For Iraq to be free, property must belong to its people.", in a editorial column in today's USA Today. (URL) view is also held by Hernando de Soto, and by me... quoting: - start - Iraq is not the only country (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Practicing for use in the states?
 
(...) Yes, but the bullets had "freedom" written all over them... Scott A (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  What makes a martyr?
 
Given the dark news from Tel Aviv overnight, I thought this may be of interest to some: (URL) a study of the "logic" of suicide terrorism. The text is reviewed here: What makes a martyr? (URL) an economist, I try to understand the world in terms of (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Free Speech, again
 
(...) <snip> (...) And now Larry's corrpupting folks from all over the world, ne? (URL) K (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Practicing for use in the states?
 
"Iraqis killed in anti-US protest" (URL) least 13 Iraqis are reported to have been killed in the town of Falluja when US forces opened fire on demonstrators on Monday night. ---...--- "A new Intifada?" (URL) television said on Tuesday 10 people were (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  OBL wins?
 
US pulls out of Saudi Arabia (URL) what OBL wanted? No doubt the USA presence in the region will be moved to Iraq... without the consent of the Iraqi people... whilst those who oppose US rule are being arrested: US arrests 'Baghdad mayor' (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  This Modern World: Our Top Priorities
 
(URL) Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Monday Morning News Roundup
 
"U.S. Undermining Arms Control - Experts" (URL) says it would be advisable for U.S. military forces to forego their current search and permit an international team of arms inspectors to verify Iraq's nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Such (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  suprt DMCA
 
Just as a break from the usual war-related debate, here's something new: (URL) me if this has already been pointed out) Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thank the NRA for Prez Dubya..
 
(...) Part of the problem is that gun ownership in the usa appears to come without responsibility; 500,000 are stolen each year... no doubt by "irresponsible people". ;) Scott A (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thank the NRA for Prez Dubya..
 
(...) Im no gun collector or anything..not even an enthusiast. But passing legislation against guns simply cuz they *can* be used to kill people, thats kinda dumb. We could have laws that outlaw guns completely, but then we would have to outlaw (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: good news for a change? (poll: would you go into space?_
 
(...) (URL) thar ya go! If you had a chance to go into space, given the dangers or expense, would you do it? The poll does not differentiate on how you get there, it can be the Rutan thing (quick skim into space), the shuttle, Russian spam-in-a-can (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(...) I just had a friend over yesterday that is involved in the project - he brought a copy of Aviation Week with him that gave some details on the project, but I didn't have a chance to look at it. I didn't even catch the issue number or have a (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thank the NRA for Prez Dubya..
 
(...) But wait! Y'all have guns so go overthrow the gov't! Isn't that *the* reason why y'all have guns in your house? To stop political folk from running your little country into the ground? Well git goin'! Dave K -antidisestablishmentarianism at (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Monday Morning News Roundup
 
"Crackdown on 'fat cat' riches: Curbs loom on huge pay-offs for bosses who fail" (URL) scandal of the so-called rewards-for-failure culture, with huge pay-offs being made to bosses of ailing companies, is set to end. Amid mounting fury at the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thank the NRA for Prez Dubya..
 
(...) We may need them to defend ourselves from the the roaming packs of the hungry created by the U.S. govt.'s brilliant economic strategies. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Thank the NRA for Prez Dubya..
 
Says bro... (URL) fun in '04--Uzis on the street. Yipee!! That should make all you gun collectors pretty happy. Dave K (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Physical Spam
 
Dunno if this is a true story or not but it's interesting reading. (URL) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Census help needed...
 
I blame the insurance industry and taxes. When all the costs of living increase and taxes rise, Corporate America wants to cut costs and Ma-n-Pa shops don't pay enough. Not too long ago people earning half my wage could pay for a house, car, (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Census help needed...
 
Where should I be looking for recent information concerning the number of working adults? Reason? The alarming statistic cited here: "Jobless and Hopeless, Many Quit the Labor Force" (URL) portion: ---...--- More than 74.5 million adults were (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(URL) us keep our fingers crossed that something comes of one or two of these pipe dream hobby projects... (note that the header of .space has a link to Scaled Composites website with their press release. As I said in .space, if anyone can win the X (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) I can go with that. Might come up again in the future though, depending on circumstance. Dave! (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Another thing about instant replay, its' annoying when they spend so long on what seems like a simple call. No ordering pizzas. Another thing is they need to make some rules simpler. The tuck rule i beleive is the one which helped the Patriots (...) (22 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Worse than that: it's too prone to mistakes. It'd be good if instant replay systems were introduced for the 4th referee, so he could assist the main referee on the more dubious cases. Then again, the mistakes are also part of the game... :-/ (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Neither prove nor cede, merely leave it as an acknowledged point of disagreement. (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Governor Moonbeam! Jerry is probably the very definition of flakey, but I always liked him. Despite coming from a political family (California Governor Pat Brown was his father, for those who don't know) he doesn't seem like the usual (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) We had Republicans George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson before Gray Davis so I wouldn't call it that much of a Democrat state (Let's toss in Nixon and Reagan, though I suppose one can counter that both of our senators are currently fairly liberal (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Pardon? If we're held to the same standard, then why do you feel free to dispense little nuggets as if they're revealed truth, but you require me to prove my arguments? (...) Let's hear them. Perhaps, instead of saying "you" in that context, I (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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