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  Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
 
(...) That's easy - don't allow the Internet! It's something that was created in the United States anyway - complaining about how we use our own creation doesn't seem to carry great moral weight. (...) Yes, but at least here, there is a general (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) I doubt it. This particular stonewalling has been going on for longer than the current situation. I really have no idea where the State Department spends its money, but if I were to take a stab at it, I would say they took the windfall of (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Yup, much like that indeed. (...) There is speculation, in that I didn't actually go check and see if the frozen funds are in the State Department sandbox. So I might be ascribing selfish motives where mere beaurocratic inertia is sufficient. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
 
(...) This is a dangerous line to try to draw. We think it safer for freedom to allow people to say what they will and let the audience decide, than to suppress kinds of speech. (pulling up the rock often has a far worse effect on the grubs that (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ...but Japan didn't agree with that assessment.
 
(...) That would be fun establishing? (...) So we should "go with the flow", accept morals which we as individuals do not agree with? I'm not saying either moral relativism or objectivism is "wrong" or "right", I just think most of us operate in the (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta loveOracle...)
 
(...) You already guessed that I prefer a different solution, didn't you? I think it's time to agree that we disagree. The discussion has not brought up any new arguments for a while ... (...) I am for sure not going to tell you what you should do (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
 
(...) So you think it is OK that they use the internet to spread their propaganda even to countries which have good reasons to disallow this type of propaganda? Or do you think there could be no good reasons to disallow tis type of proaganda? It (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Maybe airline security? ROSCO (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) You mean like how Police Departments LOVE civil forfeiture because it gives them Corvettes and powerboats and big piles of cash to play with without having to budget for them (1)? Like that? Nothing speculative about it. 1 - or justify how (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Rampant cynical speculation would prompt me to guess that the frozen assets in question are currently under the jurisdiction of the State Department, and they've already spent the money on something else. But that's just rampant cynical (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Okinawa, a foretaste of invading the main islands..
 
(...) That may be true, certainly a lot of people hold that opinion. Hanson is just another of those people. Doesn't prove the assertion, though. ROSCO (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Is that a global (America) "we're"? And who exactly does "they" refer to? It's a bit naive to try & judge "relative goodness" of a nation (or a people) by such a list (even if you could compile such a list). IMO. ROSCO (who thinks Americans (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  ...but Japan didn't agree with that assessment.
 
(...) General principles, agreeable to all people? Something like the UDHR? The bulk of world opinion? (...) See the subject line for relativism, at least in the perceptual sense. LFB (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?
 
(...) I agree. This really does illustrate the importance of IP. However, that argument should be held separate from that surrounding those profiteering based on the current situation... in my view. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) It is not just the dictators who respect Ramadan - do not forget that. If we bomb through Ramadan we will be dammed as being insensitive. If we choose to stop for Ramadan, we will be dammed for making a cynical token move. Nevertheless, I (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Not sure what you're asking, exactly. But THAT won't stop me from pontificating nevertheless. I'm not sure an unambiguous statement can be made based solely on this one personal account (and I personally vouch for Paul's veracity... I have (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?
 
(...) Foreign patents are no less important than US patents in my view and that of Mr. Goldberg (URL)To me it seems the US are trying to save some money in this case, whereas (...) Mr. Goldberg makes the argument that this attempt to steal Bayer's (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  .. but japan was 'beat' by the time the main island was reached.
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message (...) Are you saying moral objectivism is the correct path? If so, on what should it be based? The bible? The Koran? Book of Mormon? I would have thought you'd have said moral relativism (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6 degrees of separation..
 
(...) Read this: ==+== "If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents," George Bush announced on the day he began bombing Afghanistan, "they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their (...) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Tartan
 
(...) I think it is ~OK~. (...) Again OK, I prefer your Crawford. Scott A No, I don't know what they all look like. I had to look here: (URL) (23 years ago, 31-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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