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Re: Who had the 5571 Inventory?
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lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction
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Fri, 19 Mar 1999 04:45:55 GMT
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cmasi@cmasi.*SayNoToSpam*chem.tulane.edu
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Wow, did I open a can of worms!
OK, Tom's response to what I said was GREAT. Tom said:
Yes, I have done this before. Someone sent me the inventory for 9365, so I pulled
2 sets out
of the auction as Reserved for him at opening cost, even if the rest of that set
get bid much
higher.
This is GREAT! Tom is a great guy.
I guess part of my post was jealousy; I would love to have an "Inter-City Train" 7740
but I could never afford one at current market prices (OK well I guess I could come
up with the money, but it is just too much for me...nearly a months rent for a
train?), and I never had the chance to buy one when they were in production (Even
though I got a 7730 while I worked for LEGO--i.e. I got the set not through the
regular channels--7740 was just a unattainable picture on the brochure.)
In the spirit of sharing information a post could appear that says...
Such and such store is blowing out their supply of set xxxx. I got mine. Go there and
get yours! By the way, I'll be breaking up some of them for parts so I could use an
inventory...I looked but I couldn't find one.
This kind of sharing is similar to the WONDERFUL people that post the weekly phone
specials.
Also, those people that do the CAD programs please please please keep sharing (I am
certain you so not like me much right now, but could you share in a Macintosh
flavor?)
Truth is that I should be encouraging auctions; the more auctions and parts auctions
there are the more likely the prices will drop to my price range. Additionally, parts
auctions give everyone access to parts packs that LEGO is not willing to produce.
This is not an accusation leveled towards Tom...the other part of my post is that I
just worry a bit about profiteers. Profiteering is definately not in the spirit of
sharing or this NG.
John Neal wrote:
> I am all for the *free* exchange of ideas in this NG-- that's why we're all here,
> isn't it? I guess I was just voicing my subtle dismay that it seems to me that
> some people around here and especially in RTL and Ebay are just into Lego so that
> they can make a quick buck (I found 10 sets at Walmart at 40% off so now I'm going
> to sell them in Lugnet and cash in)-- and I by _no_ means mean to imply this of
> Mike. Having said that, I have nothing against the free market and the fair
> market value of sets or elements and people for selling them. I guess when I
> really analyze how I feel about the whole situation, it boils down to frustration
> with TLG for not making parts available in bulk, which would, in my mind, drive
> prices down and make Lego a more affordable hobby AND provide builders with the
> elements they need to build freely (well, not quite;). I'm thinking of an analogy
> to the legalization of drugs, but I don't want to go there because I don't really
> have all the facts and wish not to be BBQ'd:-)
>
> -John
>
> onyx wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.general, Mike Stanley writes:
> > > John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote:
> > > > Wow, are you suggesting that someone should give you something gratis so that • you
> > > > can turn around and use it to make money?
> > > >
> > > > *puzzlement*
> > >
> > > Nope, not at all.
> > >
> > > But if someone has already DONE the inventory, why not share it?
> > >
> > > But given the fact that so many other
> > > things in our "community" are based on sharing...
> >
> > i think everyone involved in this thread who *isn't* involved in the Lego CAD
> > realm should hop on over into those channels and take a look at what's going
> > on... we CAD kids are writing applications, creating 3D models of elements,
> > designing and implementing new file formats, evaluating software for future
> > Lego CAD advancements... all for *free*... all of our time, effort and creation
> > comes and goes 100% gratis.. i wouldn't *accept* being paid for my time and
> > effort.. i wouldn't even accept a fistful of bricks (well, okay, my greed
> > *would* allow me to accept an 8448.. but still :) )...
> > i don't care *what* the guy on the other end of the CAD spectrum is doing with
> > my apps and 3D meshes... as long as it *helps* someone... and i get the
> > personal satisfaction of knowing i was the badass that coded the app or modeled
> > the element... you can't BUY that kind of character-building experience
> >
> > as the "leader" of our CAD community once said: "i don't WANT to get paid for
> > this... then it becomes a little too much like 'work'... "
> >
> > not to mention the fact that Lego CAD (specifically LDraw) was born, bred and
> > fostered in the mind of a young man who died in his mid-20's... after leaving
> > us all a legacy that created the CAD community i'm proud to be a core part of
> > today... and his family still upholds his wish that every thread spawned from
> > his original creation remain public domain for eternity...
> >
> > if the person creating the information didn't want it to be shared then they
> > wouldn't have made a public access announcement on the largest worldwide forum
> > known to man...
> >
> > c'mon... play well
> >
> > J
I do play well, I just want to encourage everyone to play as well as Tom does. See
Tom's response.
Yes, let us all play well. Let us encourage good fair auctions with all the parts we
all want.
Christopher
PS. When I saw the list of Instructions that Kevin Loch was looking for I tore my
appartment apart for hours looking for the instructions to the old police station.
Unfortunately, the set was my brotheres and the instructions were lost long ago. I
was VERY excited; I thought I had found my chnace to give back to the LEGO community.
PPS. My comments about a 7740...I did briefly consider asking if anyone wanted to
trade a 7740 plus say a mail car for my Airport Shuttle 6399 with 6921 Futron
Monorail Accessory Track and 6347 Accesory Track. I decided not to ask, but I still
think about it occaisionally.
PPPS. Do you remember the days on RTL when queries like, "Hey, do you know where I
could buy any old LEGO sets?" or "Are any of you selling your LEGO?" Would illist
post after post of response of, "Who me...sell my LEGO..now that is funny." I
remember those posts.
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| (...) could come (...) <snip> (...) phone (...) That's understandable. It can be incredibly frustrating see other people getting something that you want and can't have. (In any walk of life, not just buying Lego). And that was a very honest, open (...) (26 years ago, 19-Mar-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
| | | Re: Who had the 5571 Inventory?
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| Don't worry about it, it wasn't taken that way. Luckily, SO FAR, Profiteering is VERY rare in our community (I don't count Ebay as being part of our community). In my case, I am selling stuff on Ebay and doing auctions to support my Lego habit. If I (...) (26 years ago, 19-Mar-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| I am all for the *free* exchange of ideas in this NG-- that's why we're all here, isn't it? I guess I was just voicing my subtle dismay that it seems to me that some people around here and especially in RTL and Ebay are just into Lego so that they (...) (26 years ago, 18-Mar-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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