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Re: Question about quality of Best Lock...
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Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:07:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> My comments are all gaming related so I XFUT lugnet.gaming
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> In lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > The Short Review: Ain't as good as LEGO. The figs can be tossed. The cannon
> > mountings are excreble. The bowsprit is wobbley. The half-height bricks make it
> > incompatible with Lego (though I haven't tried to connect Best-Lock bricks with
> > LEGO bricks). Generally, it just isn't as sturdy as a LEGO ship. But....! It
> > actually is a substantial ship for $20. Pirate Game fans should like a cheap
> > addition to the fleet.
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> A key part of ESPG is that all minifigs have to be attached to the ship (well
> they technically don't have to but they fall off easily if they are not, and
> that means they are "in the ocean" and thus lost to you as a player without
> special effort). How well would standard LEGO figs attach to this ship if the
> studs are different? The minifig foot is not like a plate, it theoretically
> could take a taller stud, within limits. How well would a LEGO minifig hand
> grasp stuff on the ship (does it use any Rod System sized rods or handles or
> similar?)
LEGO minifigs, if anything, are MORE secure on a Best-Lock stud. I hooked four
on to the ship via one leg only, turned it sideways, and shook. None came off
the ship. In fact, the most likely problem is that you'll go to take the fig
off, and it will pull away the Best-Lock piece it is mounted to with it. Didn't
try the hands.
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> > If you want a display ship, get the Black Sea Barracuda
> > (though this doesn't look bad at all sitting on a shelf). If you want a cheap
> > gaming ship this is perfect.
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> I have my doubts about that, see above, but could be convinced. However I think
> there's another issue for me (and perhaps a few other fanatics out there like
> me)... it's not LEGO.
True, and that counts for a lot with me, but it's a paltrey $20, and LEGO is
offering NOTHING.
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> I wouldn't allow it in a game I was GMing, and I probably wouldn't play in a
> game where the GM was using it. (we had someone show up at GenCon with one, we
> didn't let it onto the playing area but that was for perhaps different reasons)
> But that's just me. It nevertheless is something to keep in mind I think.
Steve Jackson specifically mentions Best-Lock by name in his rules and his Okatu
(listing of ships appropriate to the game), so I take that as tacit admission
that he has no objection to them.
I take it you don't allow the higher-quality parts but spud-ugly awful
Crossbones Clipper? :-)
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> > If you are somewhere in between, I think it can be
> > rescued from it's less sturdy design areas, though it may require some
> > retrofitting of LEGO parts (cannons!).
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> How many cannons would it take? Cannons are not cheap so that adds to the
> expense as well.
I suppose not everyone has a tub of spare cannons and pirates like me. :-)
It depends on how you want to equip it - most LEGO ships need more cannon, too.
I'd call it a Redbeard Runner equivalent, Class 6. The $70 price differential
will buy a lot of cannon and crew.
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) Or that he's being politically correct. Or trying to provide for people who already have the stuff and might possibly start to game if given encouragement. Or saying it's OK for others to use them if they want not necessarily that HE uses (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.gaming)
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