Dear LEGO : 952


Dear LEGO / 952

		Re: Enough already
I have to say, I agree with Todd (and Susan, I presume). It seems to me that there are an awful lot of folks who are doing an awful lot of bellyacheing, and this over VERY minor things. The wealth of online matereial which is, in fact, copyrighted (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)

		Re: Enough already
I said what I said, and I stand by it. The fellow (I have not gone back to look up who it was) who took the tack of "Oh, yeah!?! PROVE it!" came across to me as a moron. I do not say that he is one (although I admit that this is a very small (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
---...--- (...) And you got what you paid for. Bricks. And instructions. Paying the price of ingratitude could mean seeing ALL copyrighted material come off the web. It could happen, and LEGO would be well within their rights under copyright law to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) See, this is where you lose me. Completely. The prove it Prove It, PROVE IT! post struck me as amazingly rude. And NOT rude to TLC. To Todd. That's who is was being addressed to, no? Todd had taken a stance which he felt (excuse me for (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Dogs shouldn't let friends who are annoyed post annoyed, no? <g> ---...--- (...) "Sturm und drang," I think. Don't have a German distionary, so i can't be sure right now. Rob (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
This is my last word in this thread. God grant I'm not tempted to break that. ---...--- (...) So...what...? Since you did not write it, it was not rude? My original post on this topic was not addressed to you. I said, speaking in general to the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Calling Tom Stangl (or any of us) a moron is over the line. I'd like to note that the MAJORITY of the name-calling within our own community has come from the side of the fence that seems to want to shut people up if they aren't going to just (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) I know it was you, and I certainly didn't try to imply it was Todd saying that, although Todd said some thing that got me riled yesterday. And yes, there is _little_ distinction between calling someone a moron and saying they strike you as a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) I'm probably in the minority here, but guess what? I don't care. I think what Kevin has done with Brickshelf.com is AWESOME. Utterly and completely AWESOME. I applaud his effort 100%. But you know what? For all the scans I've browsed through (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) "The people that matter?"!? What does that phrase mean? How can I tell if I "matter" or not? -- jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily" (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) You matter, but I wasn't talking about you. :) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) No skin off my nose - I know my IQ, and it's well over to the higher end of the scale (and I mean WELL over) ;-) (IQ != common sense, however) I stand by my "PROVE IT" comments. I wanted proof from TLC, and I got it, end of story - until we (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Just stepping in to point out that the scans are invaluable to me and I would be impacted by not having them around. At least, I would be if I got off my duff and started turning the 200+ pounds of used, unsorted LEGO back into sets again. I (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) A clearer distinction can be drawn by saying "you are acting like a such and such" as opposed to saying "you are a such and such." Similar to the difference between "you are lying" and "you are a liar." By criticizing someone's action or (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Mike Stanley wrote: <snip> (...) Yeah, I think we got y'all's point. But I think the real point is: legalities aside, TLC didn't want that material distributed around. Just because one is able to get something on this side of a firewall doesn't (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Well, first, I didn't write the message you're referring to. I've sometimes quite loudly disagreed with Todd, but I have never been, and don't plan on ever being, rude to him. Second, things DID get a little heated over the last week or two. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Don't worry about it. I'm taking one of the Richard's suggestions and making up words when my natural inclination is to include some profanity - no reason you can't as well. (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Yeah, but it's all the same. :) When I feel the urge to call someone a jackass I don't normally disguise it in roundabout phrasing designed to keep him from wanting to punch me in the face. (...) And you would have won vocab bonus points for (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) You're right. Let's just say that I don't want to be told my access privileges here are revoked if I happen to post a link to a picture that, for whatever reason, wasn't linked to on www.lego.com. That's just one minor thing I could see (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Sturm und Drang. Cool word choice by Rob, IMHO. You don't need a German dictionary, it's in English dictionaries, synonymous with turmoil. It is literally translated as "Storm and Stress" and it comes from a "German literary movement, characterized (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Just another minor point here and I'm really just nitpicking so don't sweat it... (...) True. We've had people who said they were designers, people who related experiences working in a model shop, we sometimes have lurkers from various departments (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Um.... "Busing children...?" "Yes, '"busing" children.' Not 'busting,' 'busing.'" "Oh..... "Never mind!" ---...--- Well, then, sorry about all that. I have GOT to find a better way to decipher all these (convoluted) threads. Todd seemed (to me) to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
I agree totally with Robert...Which brings me, once again, to point out an address EVERYONE should look at. Todd is, in my opinion, trying the best he can to follow the words in this website: (URL) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:00:41 GMT, "Robert M. Dye" <robdye@writeme.com> wrote: . (...) They'd be in their rights to demand it. It would not happen. The web simply doesn't work that way. Did you miss the dozens of posts screaming "someone email me the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Sure, when a company tries to stop the dissemination of information on the net, that information usually goes underground. But that's besides the point, in my opinion. I don't want to have to beg people to send me instruction scans by email, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) I also hope no one gets kicked off of LUGnet for using "LEGO" as a noun. :) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Exactly. (...) thinking (...) acknowledged (...) Agreed, although I suppose my stance is more militaristic than most. (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) material (...) "Poking around hotline servers" Ahh, another practioner of the black art... You know, this is what's so laughable about the whole situation. Uh, HELLO THE GENIE IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE. Copyright laws are a relic from the (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Boy do I hear that. Lucky for you, you don't like to hear yourself talk as much as I do, so the temptation won't be as great... :-) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Probably mine as well. (...) I think I see where you're coming from, although your core reasoning here seems to be based on a misunderstanding. Tom was the author of this "prove it" post you're talking about. Todd, however, was not the person (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
In lugnet.dear-lego, Mike Stanley writes: <significant snippage> (...) From where I'm sitting, you don't generally come across as abusive. Harsh, yes - abusive no. $0.02 James (URL) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Please take this to another newsgroup, guys. You're waaay off-topic. --Todd (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Software makers have hardly "given up". Do you know how much money goes from MS to BSA every year? How many millions of warez CDs get confiscated every month? Jasper (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) But for using it as a verb, on the other hand.... Jasper (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:386012cd.401859...net.com... (...) HELLO (...) do (...) I look up confiscate from dictionary.com (I didn't know it) and seen that: "Seized and appropriated by the government to the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)

		Re: Enough already
(...) Heh. The "for the public use" meaning is pretty much gone these days. As far as I know, it pretty much solely means the second definition: "2. To seize by or as if by authority". (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)