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    Castle World is dead. —Anthony Sava
   (...) Richard, I'm sorry. This is not going to be a nice post. I've done my best to vent this elsewhere but I will not hold it back any longer. How much more slowly do you wish to go Richard? Look at the Castle World website. The last update was (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw) !! 
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Richard Marchetti
     Sava: One of my primary rules for CW is that you do not have any rights to my time. My own laziness is an issue that is being addressed with the new proposal that Pawel and I are working on. Why Pawel? Because it was his baby to begin with. Why not (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Leonard Hoffman
      (...) I disagree deeply here. I've talked a bit with anthony, and have read his posts closely. I think he has been working extensively to keep as many people in the mix as possible. Both him and I have been very open about our ideas about CW and (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
     
          Re: Castle World is dead. —Micah Berger
      Wow! This is the most intense argument I’ve ever seen on lugnet. Not that there haven’t been other ones that I don’t know about. You see I’m a strictly .castle lurker. Now I know that the opinion of one lurker doesn’t count for much so I’m not going (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
      (...) Oh, the official "last name" adressal? Oooh, were gettin SERIOS here... (...) Nobody should. And nobody should have rights over anyone elses time either. (...) He created it, yeah, and so on. But hes barely posted. Hes lurking. So we should (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
     
          Re: Castle World is dead. —Daniel Ravenda
      (...) Ok time for me to get a say in this. For the two years I’ve been here I surely know you can’t push over the castle world admins, trust me I have tried. I have started up argument and pleaded for new admind (with me as 1). Of course even though (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
     
          Re: Castle World is dead. —Nathan Schroeder
      (...) I'm kind of a lurker here, but have been a lurker for over 3 years now. I've probably read every one of Daniel's posts, and what he lacks in spelling and grammar, he more than makes up in enthusiasm and desire to help and create something out (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Mark Neumann
     (...) Bwhahahahaahahah. Oh, that's funny. Tell you what. Talk to Me, Matt G (might be hard to get a hold of) or Christina H. about rights to time. No one may have rights to your time, but if take on a thing like this, you have responsibilites. If (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Kevin Blocksidge
     (...) I would whole-heartedly support the formation of a new website. I haven't understand the huge conflict over what was basically a name since the start. I say go for it, even if Castle World comes back by an act of God. ~Kevin Blocksidge (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Chris Maddison
     (...) I have stood back and watched grown men make fools of themselves long enough. Anthony - Wah. No one's stopping you from making a new/different/better system for storytelling and moc sharing. Go do it if you want to. Rich - You need to sh** or (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Daniel Ravenda
      (...) Hey I am olny 14. Lol. Just had to get that in. (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Johannes Koehler
     Hello! (...) Hehe! I wonder if this battle for regency in Castle World itself was worth to be told in an epic story within Castle World. :-) Bye Jojo (URL) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Erick Jensen
     (...) I just want to see how it all ends. I hope in a firey massacre. e. (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Pawel Nazarewicz
     (Hopefully this is a constructive post ... let me know via e-mail if it doesn't move us any further to a solution) First of all, I'm happy we are having this discussion. This shows me that there is interest in the project, which has definitely been (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Andrew Engstrom
     In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Pawel Nazarewicz wrote some stuff that I deleted. Um, excuse me, can I say something? I've been loosely following this discussion for a while, and I've seen some tense exchanges. I think Castle World is an excellent thing (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
      (...) I proposed the square-grid map. Im the one trying to get a whole starship-thing going. Ive already got rules that are re-written- just not on the site. Your "administrating realms" sounds like a good idea. You travel out, and what you have (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
     
          Re: A spark of Life (was: CW is dead) —Andrew Engstrom
      (...) I had several ideas the other night, just after I posted my previous message. Now, I don't want to get into the argument over CW -- heck, I can't even discern what the hubub is about. I just want to see a fun, relaxed community having some (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
     
          Re: A spark of Life (was: CW is dead) —Matt Hein
       (...) I recall an idea similar to that one surfacing with the earlier CQ/ DraKen discussions a few months back. The idea I recall, though, deals with reports of the actual encounter between both sides and the strategies used to reach the resolution. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
     
          Re: A spark of Life (was: CW is dead) —Alex Polimeni
      I (...) Trying trying! (...) Grid map would not be used for big lands, but for movement. Say, in a single turn, a person could do just so much stuff and move just so far. (...) I dont like the report thing. One side says that they win, and the other (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Matt Hein
     (...) Actually, your imput seems very welcome. As an onlooker who has "loosely followed" much of the discussion, I've attempted to kee a passive voice on the whole affair, since frankly, the community is being divided enough already. Richard: you (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —John-Paul Enaje
     Why not make a new Castle World. Castle World 2 or something like that? (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
     (...) The idea is to take Castle World to the next level. Instead of just a site for telling storys, why not have tips and tricks on: Castle layout Castle construction Etc. I forget who had the Guild idea (much credit to them) and i was thinking (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —John-Paul Enaje
     Not finished with my Ancients Theme project, it'll take a while. I've even created a 2025 Theme into my whole collection, but even that isn't finished either. (URL) have more Ancients Theme soldiers though, its not just the Medes Persian ones as I (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Alan Findlay
     ***...*** DISCLAIMER: Let it be known that I have no personal opinion whatsoever as to the life or death or otherwise of Castle World. What follows is not meant to reflect specifically on any one person who has been contributing to the discussuion (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw) ! 
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —David Eaton
     (...) On that note: It was always my feeling that Castle World was doomed from the get-go. It was a great idea, but having static HTML pages that are editable by 1 or a small group of admins just won't live forever. Eventually, you'll have to cut (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Richard Noeckel
   What’s wrong with those of you who think you’re entitled to Castle World TM. _It doesn't belong to you!!! It was created by a group of old-skool Lugnetters, and it’s their baby. If you don’t like it…too bad. Create your own Castle World type (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general, lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
      _It doesn't belong to you!!! (...) They said if someone else was interested in it, they could take control of it. When someone tried, they refused. (...) Oooh, what if we went back on something? (...) Just leave, right, then? Go make a new board. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Richard Noeckel
      (...) I don’t really care what you do. But it just might be easier to create your own if they won’t let you in. (...) And thus, “so make your own [website].” (...) !A community created by them... That gives them precedence, and control. (...) I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
      (...) Its a community! How can we be a community when there are cheifs that make everyone else wait on them? You cannot run a community by going by your leisure! (...) We had wanted to try to re-format what groundwork was already layed. Ihop said (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: The Thread is Dead —Benjamin Ellermann
      Richard, Alex and all: I think you all have valid viewpoints of these issues. I do not think that arguing will benefit lugnet at all. People have made up their minds on what they will do. Arguing back and forth does not change this, it only clutters (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Richard Marchetti
     All you guys want to do with CW is turn it into a game forum, and CW was NEVER about gaming. That's what I don't understand. CW was NEVER about gaming. Never! I also personally find it annoying that no one has responded directly to Pawel's post (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, FTX)  
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Alex Polimeni
     (...) We arnt TRYING to turn it gaming! Long ago, i had wanted to. No, we want to take the community to the next level, instead of keeping it just a little story-board basically. Why not have tips-n-tricks? Helpful articles? On-Line displays? Role (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, FTX)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Tim Courtney
     (...) Why not do it on your own? You and the others have already attacked Richard and Pawel enough to illicit this kind of reply. Were I Richard, I'd feel the same way. Instead of unifying the community, you (and some others) are the ones dividing (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, FTX)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Richie Dulin
     (...) Castle World TM? Since when? I don't recall 'Castle World' being claimed as a trademark on LUGNET before. It is not claimed as a trademark on the website. It is a term now in common use to denote a sort of castle community thing. It is (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, FTX)  
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Richard Noeckel
     At one point the professional artwork was created and owned by Craig Hamilton. I believe between the ‘group’ of them, they owned the artwork and existing sketches of TIOM’s intended map, and other aspects of their creations. Registered Trade Mark or (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle World is dead. —Richie Dulin
     (...) No, it's not. I think you have some confusion between trademarks and copyright. The term "castle world" would not be covered by copyright. It has never been claimed (let alone registered) as a trademark until today, when you've tried to use it (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle, FTX)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Benjamin Medinets
     (...) I think this stems from the fact that there was discussion about allowing the evolution of Castleworld, but different people with different ideas about what should be done next, with their own individual pre-concieved ideas. You are right that (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Johannes Koehler
   Hello! (...) Of course the 'Castle World community' must not be confused with the 'LEGO Castle community'. There *may* be people out there who build castles, churches, medieval towns, chariots and battle machines or even just collect LEGO Castle (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle) ! 
   
        Re: Castle World is dead. —Tim Courtney
   (...) This is one of the most sensible posts of this entire thread, IMO. I'm not a Castle-head, but I've been following the discussion here -- half entertained, half annoyed by the level of whining I'm reading. In my view, Jojo's point makes so much (...) (21 years ago, 4-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, lugnet.castle)
 

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