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    Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Jason Spears
   (...) I too think a Lego/Tolkien team up would be great. The Orcs, Trolls, and Hobbits would be lots of fun. But I think the closest we will get will be the Harry Potter theme. More than likely Tolkien will be considered too grown-up for Lego's (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Richard Sperber
     (...) Well, if TLC wants to bring legos into the realm of collectors (ie. the chrome and ninja sets, along with the Minifigs Collections) then they appear to be targeting the older consumer also. As one of these, I can say that some sort of Fantasy (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
      (...) We've all heard the cautions from TLC that "LEGO" is a term of intellectual property and should be preserved intact, rather than becoming diluted through such terms as "LEGOs," "lego," or "legos." Strictly speaking, I respect that, but in (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Richard Sperber
       (...) You are right in that I made a mistake. I should have refered to them as LEGO products instead of Legos. However, I presented my posting as a casual musing over the direction I would like the Castle theme to progress, and my slip was an honest (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
        (...) I truly didn't mean to single you out, but I've been thinking about "Legos" lately, and your post just seemed like a well-timed segue for me! I'm sorry if I seemed to be coming down on you... Dave! (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Aaron West
       (...) Amen, Aaron (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Mike Timm
       (...) Agreed, if they want us older folks to buy more, they have to target us more, and also don't jack the price on us just because we are older(we CAN do the math). (...) Actually I *DO* use LEGO as both a singular and plural, have for a while (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
       (...) Fair enough, but this *is* a LEGO-based discussion group, and the demographic here might reasonably be expected to make a more thoughtful effort to adhere to the "correct" form. In my experience, though, this simply doesn't pan-out to the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Timothy Carl Buchheim
       (...) This has nothing to due with the English language's rules for pluralization. It's a legal issue of trademark dilution. By referring to their products as LEGO bricks, LEGO building toys, etc., the Lego Company is trying to avoid having their (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
        (...) I'm not disputing that. In fact, one of the first points in my original post was a recognition of the possibility of product dilution. Nor am I asserting "Legos" as the correct form; I'm simply saying that, if a person identifies a single (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Mark Sandlin
        You also have to consider that most people just don't care. If you go around correcting people, they're going to roll their eyes and give you that look reserved for Trekkie conventions and people like me who stood out in line all night for Star Wars (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
        (...) Exactly. That was the initial motivation of my post. (...) Heh! You're right--even insofar as AFOLs already face a certain stigma, unfounded though it may be, the sort of pedantry we're describing stands out as somehow more extreme. Dave! (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) but (...) brick (...) Good general example, but bad specifics, both of these product names are still protected trademarks. Contrast cola and aspirin, lost by The Coca Cola Company, Inc. and Bayer Farben AG respectively, I believe. ++Lar (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Kevin Wilson
       (...) Aspirin is still a trademark here (Canada) but not in the UK. It varies from country to country. Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Park: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —David Low
      (...) Is this a US only usage? In Australia AFAIK "Lego" is "Lego", a collective noun for the toy system, and the bricks are "Lego bricks". Maybe it's because we're used to sheep and wheat, or maybe we're just smarter ;^)(hey, this is o- t-d!). (...) (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —John Radtke
     (...) Notice they only refer to the LEGO brand in this quote, not the LEGO brick. The LEGO brand is rapidly expanding into computer games, books, multimedia, clothing, clocks, watches, etc.... Where will it end? John (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Joel Jacobsen
     (...) I'll prolly get shot for this but it's almost 6am and I can't stop myself.(1) "LEGO - the lunch box!" "LEGO - the placemats!" "LEGO - the flamethrower! (This one goes over well with the kids..)" "And MY favorite - LEGO - the Talking Timmy (...) (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Thomas Main
   (...) I think the problem for TLC would be the licensing issue. IIRC, Christopher Tolkien owns the rights to the Tolkien estate and any Tolkien-themed products that are released have to be approved by the estate. They apparently have very rigid (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
     (...) I don't know that it's "too grown-up," but I don't think Tolkien is as present in the popular consciousness as Harry Potter. That's not to say Tolkien isn't the foundation of modern fantasy, but I think the average child today is vastly more (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Mark Sandlin
      (...) I think this is true, but with the first LOTR movie being released in December 2001, public consciousness will skyrocket. (...) I think this is mainly because the figures SUCK. I was excited about them until I saw pictures. The Balrog looks (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
     (...) I hadn't considered that. Even so, with the Potter film forthcoming, I'm afraid dear Harry will still hold kids' primary interest. Of course, the old- school fans of Tolkien are another matter; however, while many AFOL's appear to be Tolkein (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Shiri Dori
     (...) Maybe, maybe not. The Potter series is good - I like it a lot - but kids' interests, especially the kind that come with a blow, have a tendency to disappear just as quickly... you never know. (...) We-ell, just think about how many die-hard SW (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
      (...) Good point. I'd like to see some numbers on that. More importantly, I'd be interested to find out how many will stay with Lego after SW has gone... Dave! (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Dave Schuler
     (...) Hmm--looks like the folks at CNN were listening in on our conversation: (URL) Dave! (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —Alex Farlie
   (...) the (...) up (...) Do you have an adress for the Christopher Tolkien or alternativly Bashki(ISTR that was the LoTR directors name)? I mean an en-masse letter might work.... According to my source in Hamleys SW lego happened because Lucas asked (...) (24 years ago, 13-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —John Radtke
   (...) Ralph Bakshi did the pseudo-live/animation version covering Fellowship and most of Two Towers. Rankin & Bass did the Hobbit and later ROTKing. Any others? John (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Castle Accesseries for Knight's Kingdom —James Brown
   (...) How about Peter Jackson, doing the whole trilogy, as we speak? (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
 

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