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Re: MLCad wishlist
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lugnet.cad.mlcad
Date: 
Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:28:35 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Steve Bliss wrote:

Right. but for doing instructions and inventories, I want to be able to
"unsubmodel" stuff, and I haven't yet figured out how to do it. Inlining
(which LDAO can do for you) isn't quite what I want. I want macro
expansion, so to speak, rather than just inlining... Basically take a
model with submodels and turn the whole thing into one big file. No
submodels, repeated parts, etc... the whole 9 yards.

I'm not seeing the difference between inlining and macro expansion...

Also, how can you simultaneously avoid submodels *and* repeated parts?  The
solution to having submodels is to repeat parts, and the solution to avoid
repeated parts is to use submodels?  So I must be missing something...

maybe I'm confusing myself.

How long have you been a consultant?  "maybe I'm confusing myself" sounds
suspiciously like a polite way of saying, "you've got it wrong." ;)

at different times I have different needs.

I'm not even going to go there.

During model design it is handy to have many subfiles as you can segment
your work.

Right.

When I am all done with a model, I'd like to take the MPD and create a
model file from it that has every part explicitly named off in it. No
sub models, nothing. THAT is the file I want to use for a parts list.

Sounds like inlining so far.

The way that MLCad currently does parts lists is not what I want. The
submodels get their own separate lists. So if I can generate a new model
that has all the parts in the main model, that would be good. Is that
what inlining does? I didn't think that was what I was getting.

Yep.  Inlining=macro expansion (to the limits of my understanding of macro
expansion).

I need the parts list so I can actually make up piles of parts and have
some reasonable confidence that when I mail someone that pile of parts
and the instructions, they can build what I thought they could build
with no missing (and no extra, my profit margin needs to be protected!!)
parts.

Ah!  I haven't poked around much in the reports area.  After all, "they're just
reports."[1]  I'll have to look at that.

Steve

1) Quoted from a developer during a training session I attended as a technical
support person, for a new software package.  At the end of the training, they
(the developers & trainers) said, "Any questions?"  I asked, "What about the
reports?", since they hadn't mentioned the many advanced repors during training.
They shrugged and said, "they're just reports."  So of course, the stupid,
buggy, inaccurate, confusing reports were one of the major banes of our
existence during my time with the support group.

Steve



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  Re: MLCad wishlist
 
(...) OK, so how do I do it? when I press the inline button in LDAO with a model selected, I get a textbox with my file in it but I don't see any new file written, or any changes to the old file. So what am I doing wrong. Again, what I want to do is (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)

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  Re: MLCad wishlist
 
(...) maybe I'm confusing myself. at different times I have different needs. During model design it is handy to have many subfiles as you can segment your work. When I am all done with a model, I'd like to take the MPD and create a model file from (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)

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