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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GqqIK0.1rK@lugnet.com... (...) No it's definitely not. Of course, it depends on what you mean with 'the unofficial LEGO CAD universe', but no way I'll accept that figure (99%). BlockCAD is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> skrev i meddelandet news:GqqIws.2ut@lugnet.com... (...) question) (...) Anton??? Anders!!! No, LCD wouldn't apply to BlockCAD, as it already has it's own 'snap' system: Everything is just a 'block', and can only be (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Wow, for a second there, I thought the authors had really made a 3-D rendering of God from The Brick Testament. @8^) (URL) was amazed that someone had taken the time to model God's hair, which I had hand-carved out of a white helmet because LEGO has (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Thank you Steve for inserting the definition that I forgot to include. (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The only pain is updating all the parts at once. But if we collect and format the data, we could use a script to (a) insert the data into the files and (b) report problems: no LCD data for a file, problems inserting the LCD data into a file, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) LDraw is promoted as LDraw, LUGNET as LUGNET, etc... My concern was this was initially being promoted as LEGO Coordinate Database. If it is promoted as LCD then I agree the issue is not as important. I sent this to Tim in a private email (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right. That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. I wasn't talking about format. What I was getting at was that the data (wherever it lives) was intended to be used for driving programs to make things snap into place, not just for doing (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well that's kind of my point. LCD is an acronym, just as LUGNET(tm) is. So I don't see LCD standing for "LEGO(r) <mumble> <mumble>" as being bad or wrong per se any more than that LUGNET stands for "LEGO Users Group NETwork" being bad or wrong (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) For anyone who (else) who doesn't know what 'ontology' means, and doesn't want to depend on context to derive the meaning, (...) Steve (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. I read this as "Larry thinks LAD and KACS meant for the LCD data to go *in* the DAT files". But reading section 1.2, (URL), makes it clear that the data is intended to be position in files outside the DATs. But the bottom line is that (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd say it should be reduced - there are potentials for generalization in the data. (...) I think the current document suffers from confusing connection possibilities with other physical limitations -- for instance, a car base ((URL)) has a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think you got it just right. The LCD has to be associated with a geometry, or it's meaningless. It would make sense to use LDraw for the LCD, especially if the 'L' is for 'LDraw'. ;) Steve (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Bernd Broich" <bernd.broich@online.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GqA9pz.MDI@lugnet.com... (...) So now it's not only possible, it's real. On my website you can now view my horse in my applet-viewer. (URL) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks for the link. Shame on me for forgetting! (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I dunno if this could apply or not, depends on how LEGO's format is written. (I don't know details) That's a question for the person who designed their format (and I doubt they'd discuss it here) ;-) (...) I believe its the same library, but a (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I would assume BlockCAD. Anton? Though compatibility problems might arise if my assumption is correct about center points on parts - if LCD is (and I believe it most definitely will be) designed around the LDraw library, and that is a factor, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Depends. The issue really is the compatibility between the libraries, if I understand correctly. Different parts libraries have different center points for the parts, and that's the big issue. A conversion table would have to be made between (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That'd be Karim Nassar's "Artemis" project (URL) but I don't think it covers connectors. ROSCO (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That'd be Karim Nassar's "Artemis" project (URL) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Not sure. LEGO(r)'s own internal format? There IS one but few know details. The LEGO Creator(tm) format? In fact one would speculate that a "good" Creator-like program would need this info to be workable. LEOCad(tm) uses same/different format? (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, I see where you're at on that. Yes... it would be nice to just put it in the DAT file itself. Huge advantage to that is that it's there. No need for clunky lookaside files to correlate against. Huge disadvantage of course is that the DAT (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is there a contemporaneous format to which LCD could apply? (honest question) (...) LEGO is sensitive about the use of their name. [No different than GoB(tm)] (...) I think it now stands for LDraw, formerly it was something like LEGO Draw. (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Correct. I was not faulting the authors. I only intended to point out that the community needs to work with them to flesh out the model. I hate to throw in jargon and buzzwords into a discussion, but we will need to either build or adopt an (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh. I hope so. That makes more sense (at least in my head.) From some of what I read though, I got the impression that the modelling tool was supposed to get the geometry from the DAT file, but lookup the connectivity of the part in some other (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) systems - especially once headsets/3d displays are in common use. It would also be great for writing AI software that could 'play' with Legos. Later, Gary (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think that was the intent of the authors. When you get a chance to read the whole thing (and you should make yourself some clear time with no distractions, it's fairly intense reading but worth it) you'll see that they speak of things (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote: . . . (...) Hi, I first have to admit that I haven't read the whole proposal. However from what I have read, and the comments, I'm starting to think that what is being proposed is more of a standalone database that is popu (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think this document is a good summary of the problem and solution. :) I've got plenty of specific issues, but I'd like to reserve comment for right now. First, it would be good to hear from the people writing programs (ie, Leonardo and (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think your comment is correct, the connectability needs to encompass a minifig hat on a standard stud... where there may be weakness in their terminology is that they handle fields of studs as one... and while a minifig hat will NOT fit onto (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I think that the list of connectors/connections needs to be expanded from what is shown here. My specific concern after reading the draft is that it does not seem to cover the possibility of placing a mini-fig headgear piece on a 1x1 round brick. A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is it restricted in applicability to just LDraw parts? (that is, if there were a competing parts format, could the idea be applicable? Could the database (perhaps with coordinate transformation) itself? If it's not restricted (and I think it's (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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First of all, I think think this thread should be in the top stories section! Secondly,I want it asap! I would pay money for an editor with this implementation in fact I think it would be advantages if the lego group itself implements this or (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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A note worthy of some serious consideration, I got a priavte email from Jude Beaudin, who suggested the name might infringe on LEGO's interests. He suggested the project be renamed to 'LDraw Connection Database' instead, preserving the acronym and (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. I only copied that actual .lib files into lib and lib_debug, not any of the supporting files such as vc60.idb. I didn't have any problem simply copying them all in after building libpng (which also builds zlib in the process). (...) Well, (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Its after work and here's the speargun. As always, critique away (...) 30088 tatooed on the {back of their) trigger Thanks, -Chris 0 Minifig Speargun 0 Name: 30088.dat 0 Author: Chris Alano (calano@yahoo.com) 0 Unofficial Part 0 0 CATEGORY Minifig (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) it!! This is looking great! It seems like a good start on a difficult problem! It's something I (as a technic modeller) have wanted for a long time! I can see one limitation - the fact that technic axles are actually significantly smaller than (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yup! :-) (...) Never thought of it that way. In that case, it would go beyond the primary goal of making parts connectable in the editing of a model file. (...) For now, discuss here. (...) You are right. I fixed the error. (...) A couple of (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) WOW! This is VERY significant work. Building this knowledge into modeling tools would be awesome. People in the past have hinted at ways of doing this and at the vast and powerful new ways of analysing things that would result. I personally am (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello! Ohhh.. this is great! you know i love the panning feature ;) Thank you! Carsten (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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