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  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> wrote in message news:G1xC6x.7nK@lugnet.com... (...) mathematical (...) you (...) the (...) To be perfectly honest, I can't really remember how I came up with them. I think I actually started with the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) The clue is to prevent L3xx from finding 76.dat in PARTS. This can also be achieved by adding 76.dat to your MPD. /Lars (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
Manfred, Well, I'm sorry, but though I did follow all your instructions completely (I think) none of them really fixed my problem, but they did give me insight into how to write a Batch file. Here's what I did to get L3P to run correctly: I put (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
"Anders Isaksson" <isaksson.etuna@REMO...tninet.se> wrote in message news:G1v4rL.CE3@lugnet.com... (...) (URL), (...) I just downloaded this as I too am having a tough time finding parts (in particular the red piece from 6033 Traitor Transport that (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) file. (...) Hmm... maybe then I need to generate my own custom version of 76.dat by not resizing/scaling but instead reshaping it to be the right length. I need to look at that. (callit 76_26plates.dat when it is 26 plates long, etc.) Like I (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) No, I'm afraid this won't work. The 76.dat is NOT somewhere else, it is still in PARTS. You only move the referencing line type 1 to another file. (I take it you are referring to Steve's 112.dat) The clue is to prevent (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) In L3Lab, you can find the current view matrix in the statistics menu item. It is useful for usage with, e.g., LDLITE and LDraw. Fredrik (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) MPD. (...) MLCad (...) either (...) Great sleuthing. I'd say that is it. The suggestion given earlier to create an ersatz part that embeds the scaled 76 in it, ensuring that the 76 is somewhere else, sounds like it might fool your scaler into (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  BMP-to-LDraw32 Converter new release 0.95 !!!
 
Hello ! I've just updated my BMP-to-LDraw converter windows tool. I added 3 more palettes (2 with dithered colors) and the possibility to choose your palette. BMP-to-LDraw runs under Win95/98/ME/2000 and convertes logo-bitmaps of LEGO-bricks to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.ideas, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
I knew there was a way to decompose the matrices! But I couldn't find it. Where is that written down? I also thought there was a way to remove the cumulative round off errors in a transformation matrix after many matrix multiplications. Do you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) LDAO writes those entries to ldraw.ini. I'm not sure if any other programs update that section or not. The "Oblique" view is the default view for LDraw, and was also used for LDLite (I think) and L3Lab. "UpsideDown" is derived from "Oblique". (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
OK now we're getting somewhere. Thanks for providing the exact mathematical representations of those numbers. Now I'm gonna have to figure out how you calculated them. :-) (I just had the computer do the work and print out the decimal (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
I believe the matrix happens to produce a standard isometric view, but doesn't do so in the traditional 3D graphics way of rotation. This means that in addition to not looking right after rotation, it also doens't produce correct results when you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) It's not always this easy. Some parts just cannot be constructed out of the primitives - or the scaling/transformation is just too difficult to figure out. Examples are those with complex curves (like the wizard's hat), or complex (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) I don't know their origin, but you're right, there's a shear component in them. Here's what a matrix decomposition shows: (...) Scale : (1.5, 0.942809, 1.41421, 0) Rotate : (0.321751, 0.729728, 0.463648, 0) Translate : (0, 0, 0, 0) Shear : (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) You are correct on both points. The primary value of the tool at this point is that it removes the tedium of defining polygons to connect vertices. It's a start! (...) Your edge-detection suggestion is certainly the ideal, but would get a bit (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) Move L3P.exe to a different directory, for instance C:\Pov, and change the path reference in the last line of L3P.bat accordingly. This way you can still use way the DOS-window openened with the shortcut for L3P for running Ldraw.exe also. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Cool beans! (...) Define "feed" in this context... an ordered vertex list? That's still hard to do, what is needed is an app that lets me create these regions superimposed on a bitmap. (...) Er, ah, kind of like that. (...) I think this is an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another license draft
 
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to this -- I've been too busy to really dig into it. Overall, I think this is a decent *redistribution* license. It does not address: 1. The agreement(s) between the contributors and ldraw.org. 2. The fact (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More descriptions
 
(...) Thanks for pointing this out. I can't check into this right now -- I'm wondering if there's some obscure reason behind this (besides me not being careful) -- but I will delve into the matter ASAP. Steve (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
Hey, does anybody out there know the origin of the "Oblique", "UpsideDown", and "Natural" viewing matrices in LDRAW.INI. I'm not sure whether these came from LDAO, LDLITE, or perhaps even LDRAW? Wherever they came from, they don't seem to be pure (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) The problem is the first one you listed: L3P.bat and L3P.exe are in the same directory. C:\Ldraw\L3P.bat C:\Ldraw\L3P.exe How should I separate them so L3P.bat will be found first? --Ryan Lugnet member #517 E-mail: Ryanjf2@juno.com Amateur (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Yes indeedy, and coincidentally I slung together the beginnings of such a program tonight. You feed it the outlines of the features of the printed element, along with a "color seed" inside each colored region, and it generates the triangles (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  More descriptions
 
I have one more note about the descriptions: 2494P01 and 4448P01 are called "Glass for Window ..." while 2494 and 4448 are called "Window Glass ...", so they don't sort correctly. Leonardo (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) both (...) We were composing at the same time I think, and independently posted. Either that or its some sort of Ada resonance. (...) Continue to enforce the naming convention for decorated parts that makes it easy to derive what the base part (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet ... (...) (URL) Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
Larry Pieniazek skrev i meddelandet ... (...) present (...) are (...) I have the beginnings of such a program, it puts the bitmap as background, and you can draw polygons (triangles and quads) on top of that. You can zoom in/out quite a bit, and it (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) Try looking for lines with the following: 0 [Official|Unofficial] ... [Part|Element|Primit...art|Model] I admit, the "Official/Unofficial" flag is kludgy, but I was working with what I had... Another MPD suggestion: 0 FILEEND. This would allow (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) I've (re)tested it just now, and it should work: Possible error causes: - L3P.BAT and L3P.EXE are in the same folder/directory. When you issue the command "L3P" it finds the EXE before the BAT, and LDRAWDIR isn't set. - Saved batchfile with (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  6216M description note
 
Hi, I'm looking at the new update and I noticed that 6216M is called "Eletric Technic Motor 4.5V", but I have one of those as a 12V motor. Leonardo (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) Well, Manfred, I followed your instructions but it didn't seem to work. However, by typing the path to my \ldraw\models directory and seting Ldrawdir=C:\ldraw, I was able to run L3P and render my models in POV-Ray. Thanks for your help, --Ryan (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Parts 4744 & 6216 have the same name
 
Here's a heads-up: The newly released part 6216 and an older part 4744 have the same name but are different pieces. 4744.DAT Brick 2 x 4 x 2 with Curved Top 6216.DAT Brick 2 x 4 x 2 with Curved Top (needs work) Part 4744 has four studs and part 6216 (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) My "fake" seams seem to be the problem ;-) As you can see on (URL) scale parts a little bit to make a seam between parts. ("parts" are here DAT files found in the PARTS directory [1]) Normally this works fine, because (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: BrickDraw3D works with RayShade
 
That's interesting. Does that mean you used the raytracing code? So there would be some similarities to my program's rayshade mode? (I'm just a newcomer yet and not familiar with everything available.) My program's rayshade mode improved to (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Tyres?
 
(...) is (...) I thought that might be the case, but I couldn't find a quick answer online. Thanks! Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Tyres?
 
(...) James Jessiman was from Australia. Leonardo (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Tyres?
 
This might be an exceedingly dumb question, but why does LCad spell it this way? It doesn't bother me, of course, but I wondered when the decision was made to go with the "chiefly British" spelling, considering that elsewhere "color" is spelled (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test version of LDraw Add-On Installation
 
(...) That's normal, if you mean the progress bar that appears on the main form when you start LDAO, not the messages you get when you open the VEC, about parts.lst and the VEC being out-of-date. (...) Hmm. I'll look into this some more. It's (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Whoa. Deja vu. (...) [snip] (...) I'm not seeing how this affects file-naming standards, except from the POV of not changing what we're doing. Also, do you (or anyone) have any suggestions for modifying the Partsref site to follow this (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  BMP-to-LDraw32 Converter
 
Hello ! the last two days I was busy to program this BMP-to-LDraw converter windows tool. It runs under Win95/98/ME/2000 and it convertes logo-bitmaps of LEGO-bricks to LDAT-format - just as BMP2DAT or the tool in the LDAO suite should do ;).. Fell (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.ideas, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)


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