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(...) Actually I'm not quite as impressed as I was a few minutes ago. I checked the size of the executable in the zip file and it's only 81064 bytes. The bloat we saw was the debugging symbols. You can remove them with this. strip ldglite I now (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I had this up and running in a few minutes under Win98. Adequate launching and rendering achieved by dragging files onto the executable (in Explorer). Rendering was definitely slower than LDLite. When looking for subfiles, LDLite will look in (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ... (...) Quoting the ldglite home page: (...) Which probably isn't the problem, but what the heck. Steve (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Weird. Works OK in my LEdit. The only suspicious candidates would be the files box4t.dat or box4-1.dat. Make sure both of those files are in your ldraw\p directory. Steve (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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libtool eh? What the heck is that? I seem to have it in /usr/local/bin but "man libtool" turns up nothing. I guess I'll have to read the man pages on gcc and ld to find out more about the shared libs vs static linking switches. Oh well, I was gonna (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmmm, perhaps now we're onto something. My executable is only 189110 bytes. Significantly smaller! ;^) I don't think the executable is supposed to be statically linked. I didn't add anything to the makefile to do that. Do you have the .a files (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Weird. It was looking for the object libraries at runtime, yet the filesize was wicked huge. (I wonder what's up with that? It should only be a few Kb in size.) Now I just linked it a different way -- closer to what the Mesa demos do -- and it (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ah Ha! I guess that proves the problem is with GL. Now how do we fix it... (...) Yeah, I knew that, but I'm too lazy to find my way to the setup page. Then I get the reminder when I go to post. Thanks for the link though. Perhaps you could add (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm, same thing -- blank white window. :-( (...) First, make sure you've got cookies enabled in your browser. Then go to (URL) fill that out as you did before, and before pressing Submit, make sure that the checkbox labeled "Keep my (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I didn't either, until I compiled & installed Mesa. (...) Yup, same here (except Mesa). (...) Whoa, that's interesting... You had trouble linking before making the softlinks?? I don't remember having trouble linking at all -- but I definitely (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I just thought of another thing to try. In main.c search for #ifdef DRAW_AXIS. Put this right above it. #define DRAW_AXIS 1 This will draw the x,y,z axis in red, green, and blue like in the gif file on the website. That'll show if GL is working. I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yuk! Your libs and mine are not setup anywhere near the same way. I have NOTHING in /usr/local/lib. All the X stuff is in /usr/X11R6/lib. The Mesalibs were already there when I installed off the Mandrake CD so I left them there, even though (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) $ cd /usr/X11R6/lib $ ls -la *GL* ls: *GL*: No such file or directory $ ls -la *gl* ls: *gl*: No such file or directory Hmm, maybe that's the problem. I didn't think of making the symlinks from there because it stopped complaining at me when I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Nutz! You've exhausted all my easy guesses. Now I'll actually have to think about this... Perhaps there's something funny about the Mesa installation. I just went with what installed automatically from the Mandrake CD. However I did have to make (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Pretty sure that's not the problem...because when I run it with the default LDRAW path (or with LDRAWDIR explicitly set to the right location) then it chews away for varying amounts of time depending on which file it's asked to display. And I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, I did disable the message. In main.c the printf() in platform_comment() is disabled (probably because it spewed way to much information). I think if you inserted this you'd be happier. if (level == 0) printf("comment %s\n", message); I'm (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oops, I hit tab key and it posted the message before I was finished. Lets try again. Cool! I found a sucker (er, um, I mean a beta tester). My first guess is it's having trouble finding the LDRAW path. That'll give you a white screen for sure. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Cool! I found a sucker (er, um, I mean a beta tester). My first guess is it's having trouble finding the LDRAW path. That'll give you a white screen for sure. I think I included a grey cylinder dat file that doesn't require any other files. If (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Anders Isaksson wrote... (...) Yes, it has been discussed before ((URL) like the fact that all you need is l3p.exe, i.e. no other files. However, I will reconsider a primitive substitution file when LGEO gets supported. I would guess primitives and (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Waycool! I'm wicked excited to try out anything LDraw-related for Linux. I almost got it working, but not quite. :-( It seems to be running and thinking real hard, but all it displays is a blank white window. Notes: * System is PII333 / RHL6.1 (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello beta testers, I put a new version of ldglite on the web. You can find it at (URL) the case sensitive filesystem issues have been resolved. Translucent pieces look kinda translucent. Type 2 lines look good. (well they look good to me anyways) I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Lars C. Hassing skrev i meddelandet <948793526.13392@ns.cci.dk>... (...) What about a more general approach? Read a substitution table from an INI-file when L3P starts, then you don't have to compile new versions, we just have to add a line to the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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When I use certain decorated elements in LEdit, only the bottom, top, and decorated face appear; the others are simply absent. I've noticed this on the LL924 and LL928 bricks, as well as the Classic Space "down arrow" 1x2 brick and the very cool (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw "thomas burger" <tburger666@aol.com> (...) [snip] (...) In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney replied: (...) [snip] There is something I've written in the past that maybe is worthwhile to include in the parts tutorial: In the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Imre Papp writes: [snip] (...) [snip] One note about those curved tracks: Because of part details, circular primitives can't be used efficiently for modelling curved tracks. I refer to the tapering at both ends and the saw- theeth (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) There are two issues here. a) what resolution is appropriate to realistically render a part, b) how are the circular features of that a likely to connect/interact with other parts or feature of the same part. Issue b) is why we cannot (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Paul Easter wrote about Hi-Res primitives: (...) L3P will correctly render any DAT file. But it will not substitute any Hi-Res primitives until I release the next version. I did program Hi-Res support in June 1999, so I guess it's about time for a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) My opinion is that we do need high res circular primitives (edge, disc, cyli, etc) in cases where the part includes curves/surfaces with a significantly larger diameter than 'usual'. The good old STUD.dat (and its familiy) looks OK with 16 (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Ok, Can some one tell me where we are heading with these Hi-Res primitives. Today I created the Hi-Res versions of several of the "normal" primitives. Then I edited the main "normal" ones to use the Hi-Res instead. WOW! There was about a 10-20% (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It should be 6 x 4. I'll update the file, so they match. (...) My bad. The number should be 43. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah, it is. Those transmissions are really neat too... -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tore Eriksson <tore.eriksson@mbox3...wipnet.se> wrote in message news:388873F6.9A09BC...pnet.se... (...) look (...) been (...) doesn't (...) LDAO's Gridder works well for things like this, too. -John Van (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ... (...) I tried a dummy part using 48\1-8disc.dat (the original) and it works fine on my system. Also, your most recent 2951.dat draws correctly on my system, both in LDLite and LDraw. I'm guessing there was a problem in the original (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ...[snip]... (...) ...[snip]... (...) Steve, I believe that the description of the first file listed above should read "Flag 4 x 6" (and not "6 x 4"). If not, then the description of the subfile should be changed to read "6 x 4" to match the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Greetings Lutz just emailed me and asked me to post information regarding his new url at his own domain: (URL) also says, "Anyway, my page now has moved officially and is up to date with an new LGEO package (adding 69 new parts) and the latest parts (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.people)
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As some of you may have noticed, I have had some problems making my 2951 behave. Out of frustration I made some changes to the hi-res 1-8disc.dat, and lo and behold, suddenly everything worked. Now, the weird thing is that there was nothing wrong (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yup. I double-checked the two parts. Fredrick is correct, the new spring has fewer windings. And it is stiffer than the old spring. Other than the new spring, the pieces of the parts seem to be identical. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) supercar as part of the transmission. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Don: (...) It wasn't quite clear what you need in addition to the distribution on <URL: (URL) >. Which libraries have you used for the Linux version? And could you make a plain zip OR tgz file? The mixture you use for the Linux source distribution (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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