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  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) The main discussion was on the mailing list. I can check my home machine, to see if I have it archived. Anyone else keep copies of the L-CAD messages? Steve (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org up and running again (Was: ldraw.org down until Monday)
 
(...) Hey, a huge "BTW" round of thanks for Jacob and Tim and Todd and anyone else in the admin role...the online world wouldn't run without you! :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) Actually, most of mine say "not CW-Compliant", as a notice to anyone coming along who wants to clean up the library. Steve (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) I couldn't find anything either, maybe the archive has a limit or it was discussed in the L-CAD list ? The only related message I found was (URL) but the discussion started several months before that. Leonardo (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) That should have read, for every polygon in the element or primitive. (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
Chris Dee wrote in message ... (...) partly (...) plastic. (...) is a (...) The algorithm I came up with yesterday will handle such cases. Basically for every face in a polygon, I'll pass a ray through it and count the number of polygons that it (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
John VanZwieten wrote in message ... (...) I ran the search for 'backface culling', but it came up with four un-related articles. :( -GW (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
John VanZwieten wrote in message ... (...) fix (...) worry (...) file. (...) Thanks for the tip, I'll run a search. Actually I think I've worked out in my mind an automatic clockwise-sorting algorithm. It will fail for primitives like studs which (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) I'd be mighty impressed, too, if you could do this automatically. For solid polyhedra, it's not too difficult as you can assume that the origin of the solid is within the material, but most Lego parts are re-entrent (ie. partly hollow), so (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
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  Re: anyone else notice this?
 
Hello Jonathan, (...) I was thinking of doing that one also. Planning to strart it about halfway October. (...) Mm, too big for me right now, I think I leave that up to someone else. But I could donate the early stage of the curved track file, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  ldraw.org up and running again (Was: ldraw.org down until Monday)
 
As I promised Friday: ldraw.org is up and running again thanks to a friend of mine who installed a new kernel on hugin. Play well, Jacob PS: I have recieved a message from the Danish backbone operator, warning me that the connection to Risø will be (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
(...) If you run a LUGNET search on backface culling, you'll find extensive discussion of this. Some parts (mostly done by Steve Bliss) have a "0 CW- Compliant" tag, which means you can use backface culling on them. It would be pretty amazing if you (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Part 2409
 
Heya all ! Where can I download part number 2409 and all other parts ? I need this part for my PD model for Datsville. Where can I get all LDraw parts ? (It was on geocities but now I can't find it.) Thanx. Rene e-mail: virsik@sco.svf.stuba.sk (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
 
I performed some hidden surface removal tests today (I should have been working on other things, like the inventory file cleanup utility...) and it appears that there isn't a standard order for listing vertices in DAT files (I only tested a few (...) (25 years ago, 26-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
(...) If a "list of what was chosen, selected or inputted as text, mailed to a specified address" sort of form result is sufficient for your uses, you needn't even do that. See: (URL) view source for the page, or copy the page to your own server and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
(...) You're basically looking for the same voting script that Todd uses on lugnet's cool site of the week page ((URL) right? Why not just ask him for the source and adapt it to your uses? Adrian -- (URL) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org Model of the Month
 
Yet another mini-project that can enhance ldraw.org... I remember talking about the Model of the Month feature and plans for it, but discussion fizzled. I think we can get this up and running in a few days if we recall what was discussed and if (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org down until Monday (was: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?)
 
(...) [...] (...) Todd beat me to the punch I see :) Well, sorry guys for this unexpected inconvenience. -Tim ldraw.org Project Coordinator (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org down until Monday (was: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?)
 
(...) Jacob asked me to post the following message... --Todd ___...___ From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@cats.nbi.dk> Message-Id: <199909241830.UAA100...ts.nbi.dk> Subject: ldraw.org down until monday To: lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) Date: (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: Question on Colors for MLCad!
 
Ok, MLCad already supports color meta commands of LDLite except the naming feature, I'll try to implement this into the next version, along with some suggestions from the articles arround "Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs. But one (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: anyone else notice this?
 
(...) Are you doing the inside curve as well? What about the points? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: anyone else notice this?
 
(...) Hello Jonathan, After a bitter conflict I've been able to wriggle my way back again to my former workplace. I had almost no access to internet during that time, so I used it very wisely. As you may have noticed on the parts tracker by now, (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) LOL :) (...) No prob. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Patience -- how long will *THAT* take?!? :-, Thanks for the quick reply, Tim! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) The immediate response is from me bein online when I got the mail :) - and I'm not responsible for the server... And yeah, sometimes I wish I wasn't the person :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Question on Colors for MLCad!
 
(...) colors go (...) 0-15, 32-47, and 255-511 are LDraw-supported colors. There are a number of other colors < 100 supported by LDLite (check the documentation). LDLite also supports the COLOR meta command by which the user can custom define any (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
 
(...) You beat me too it, Steve :) I was also going to recommend supporting the COLOR meta command. I also suggest you support all the other LDLite colors. (I think most of them are between 17 and 31) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
 
(...) code. Thanks for the info. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes: {SNIP} (...) Thank you, sir. Always nice (1) to get immediate feed-back from a responsible person and (2) not have to -be- that person <grin>. Cheers, Roger (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) I can't get through either. Knowing the reliability of Hugin, it should only be a temporary thing. Sorry for the inconvenience, try to be patient :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
(...) Greetings... Same problem here, from behind a firewall, which I thought might be the problem. I need to inspect the FAQ and keep getting a path failure. Cordially, Roger (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?
 
Has anyone else been having problems lately getting to ldraw.org ? Pinging risulp1. and rishp1.risoe.dk (the DNS servers) times out. Please please please let this be temporary...! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
 
(...) Have you looked at the LDLite extended meta-statements? Among other things, they allow colors to be defined and redefined in models. I'd recommend supporting these commands -- for some of them (probably the rotate, translate, and transform (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: gone fishin
 
(...) All the standard colors are in the LDraw FAQ. Now, if someone wants to research RGB values for some of the newer colors, that'd be very cool. STeve (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Question on Colors for MLCad!
 
Since many people are asking for the enhanced color dialog in MLCad I'm planning to introduce it now. But before that I have some questions where I hope you can answere them, and help me out: 1) In general there exist some predefined colors, in the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
 
Bram Lambrecht wrote in message ... (...) official (...) difficult (...) the (...) :) I don't think I personally have any sets with chrome parts, so I'm not sure how they appear in LEGO instructions. Anyone have a URL to a scanned instruction page? (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Chrome in new LCAD programs
 
Gary: It'd be great if your program rendered color 383 (and 503) more like official LEGO instructions rather than like LDraw/LDlite. I don't know how difficult that would be too implement, though. --Bram PS: try not to be overwhelmed by all these (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
 
Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37e905c6.145432...net.com... (...) Have you even opened output from the MFE into LEdit? The result reminds me of the movie Total Recall. -John Van (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: DAT format question
 
Steve Bliss wrote in message <37e9033a.13891366@l...et.com>... (...) Yup. The simplified one I made last night is here: (URL) over-complicated one isn't on the server anymore. -Gary (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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