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Re: LDD vs LDraw
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lugnet.cad
Date: 
Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:35:08 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, James Reynolds wrote:
> > I still don't get this.... submodels mean separate LDR files.  In
> > MLcad you can
> > have separate LDR files, or you can use MPD.  To edit these sub-
> > models you have
> > to switch files.
> > 
> > Groups is a collection of parts that you can treat as a unit
> > without the use of
> > a separate file.  They each have their use, although historically
> > sub-models as
> > separate LDraw files has been used a large majority of the time.
> 
> I have a question about this.  It is very important to me.  I like to
> make animations, and to rotate things correctly, I must use
> submodels.  In using other people's models, I've discovered that
> nobody centers their submodels to the pivot point, but the origin is
> just randomly placed (usually wherever they put the first piece).  I
> wrote this article trying to address this issue:

Ahem Ahem... I know that at least Mladen and myself do this and I've been
spreading the word. You pretty much have to if you design mecha. I do, however,
agree that it is annoying to deal with when people don't (I'll name no names...
Swami).

> http://james.magnusviri.com/lego/articles/animatable_models.html
> 
> But got no feedback.  Maybe it isn't very obvious what I'm saying?
> 
> I use a Mac, and thus Bricksmith.  Bricksmith makes it easy to use
> submodels (in fact, it isn't even obvious you are using submodels).
> This makes arbitrary rotations very easy.  Any time I rotate
> anything, I put those pieces in a submodel and rotate them in a
> group.  Together, they are aligned normally and are easy to edit.  I
> only used MLCad a few times, so I'm not sure how it works, but is
> editing submodels difficult on it?
> 
> James

It is not terribly hard to do in MLCad and to recenter a submodel you just
select all and move it (sometimes a bit annoying as you have to work out the
pivot and translate accordingly). You then have to move it in the vector
negative in its parent.

Tim



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  Re: LDD vs LDraw
 
(...) I have a question about this. It is very important to me. I like to make animations, and to rotate things correctly, I must use submodels. In using other people's models, I've discovered that nobody centers their submodels to the pivot point, (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.cad)

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