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(...) Like with channels and RSS and stuff? (please say yes please say yes) Any chance that the Spotlight will be exposed in RSS format? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wherefinds one documents on what is RSS? --Todd (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) www.perl.com recently had an article on it: (URL) RSS is an XML file served by http which contains channel information; the RSS client (e.g. slashdot.org, my.netscape.com, my.yahoo.com, etc.) slurps it and spews out HTML on the end-user's (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I see. It's a lot like RDF then. Neat-o. --Todd (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) If the Spotlight data were in an easy-to-munge format, it would be pretty straightforward, ya, but it actually grew up out of a plaintext format. Here's an example of today's page in its raw form that I edit in a browser window edit box: (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In other words, back when the Spotlight pages were begun, it was very easy to justify trying that out, because it literally was zero programming to implement it -- it's just one particular application of the plaintext markup format I was (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Taking this RSS/Channels thing a step further, here's a related possibility which applies the RSS suggestion to a more general problem domain: First, I'd like to scrap the current Spotlight (after a one-time data conversion to a new format, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wait -- maybe instead of individual objects in the list having the flag on an object-by-object basis, maybe the lists themselves should have a list- global flag. That way, instead of each member having a single channel with some of the items (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ^^^^^^^ Er, by "freebie" I mean with no or relatively no extra coding . . . --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Huh? Sounds waaay too complicated for me. I subscribe to the KISS principle. Guess I'd have to see an actual example to see if it would be useful. My $0.02 (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Actually, it -is- simple -- very simple -- I just gave a complicated programmergeek description, that's all. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) And, I'd assume that there would be a generic or default setting for people who want to keep it really simple, right? Ben Roller (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I understood (and enjoyed greatly) what you were saying until there. I don't see it, could you please explain what you're thinking there? Sooo, we'll see all of this by say next Friday? ;) Ben Roller (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) oh. What on earth do personal channels (or weblogs, for that matter) have to do with guestbooks? Well, they're almost exactly the same thing. The only difference, other than the minutiae of formatting, is who can read entries and who can write (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ohyah. For people who wanted to keep it *really* simple, they wouldn't even know that channels existed -- they could just read the Spotlight channel and wouldn't even know it's a channel -- it would just show up as a little list on the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Here ya go: (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) There's a couple reasons that it sounds complicated. First, even though it'll be simple on the outside, it's complicated on the inside, and I was describing the insides more than the outsides. Second, for stuff like this, it's often useful to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yeah but can you get there from here? Because remember: no matter where you go...there you are. Sounds kinda Zeny. Excuse the smart ass postclub response. (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <major, indiscriminate snippage re: RSS channels and putting people in charge of what they want to see> Cool. Some of the technogeekness escaped me, but the gist of it is very cool. As I understand it, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) display (...) Another data item which would lend itself well to this is the links sidebar for each newsgroup page. In fact, just about any possible piece of data on LUGNET can be served into a channel -- member pages, thread info, even search (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) don't (...) Oh... I think I get it now... So every person will have: *a Private channel that tracks groups or posts by your request. Only you can can see what these are. *A Public channel that also tracks groups or posts, but anyone can check (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wha?! You've seen CGI-generated pages from www.lugnet.com get *cached*? That shouldn't be happening... Could you provide a sample URL and I'll have a look through the httpd logs. --Todd (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) well, I don't think that's what Jeremy meant, but lugnet's home page isn't set to expire immediatly - if you hit back on your browser to return to it, you get the old version (what you saw when you were there) and not the current one... :) Dan (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Erm, no I haven't *seen* them cached, just remembering this conversation: (URL) - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Arg. I did say that I saw it. Figure of speech, and all that... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, yes, that kind of caching. That kind of caching _should_ be happening, yes. If that's what Jeremy's seeing, then that's the intended behavior (just like any other static .html page). Oops, I snipped too much of what Jeremy wrote when I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Okay, I'm confused. Please see my response at (URL) refers to a conversation we had last May: (URL) particular, I'm confused about "transparent caching", which I understood to be a function on LUGNET, rather than a proxy or the client. Cheers, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OH, I see what you mean now. No, the "transparent caching" (meaning internal intermedia results only -- not external results) is not a function of the server. It could be, and probably someday will be (if it needs to be), but it isn't that way (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Okay, cool! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That should be "intermediate," not "intermedia." :-p --Todd (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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