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Re: Ebay auction Group
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Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:11:38 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.general, Frank Filz writes:
One thing to think about, I have noticed that access to the Lugnet groups is
getting slower and slower, especially at home with Outlook Express.
This is because the entire news history is kept in the newsgroup.

Hmm, that sounds like a client newsreader bug.  It shouldn't be any slower
with a well-written newsreader, whether there are 100 messages or 100,000
messages.

Whether its a bug or not, it is happening. I am having the same problem
with Communicator 4.5. I think someone said that it was unchanged in
4.7. The group with the most posts (.general) is the one where I have
been most affected.

Hmm... here's a
thought, how technically difficult would it be to provide a news shadow
which would only maintain one weeks worth of posts?

Well, at some point, I'll have to start archiving the old messages out of
the NNTP-visible area, but they'll always be fully available of course via
the HTTP-visible area (the web interface).

Having 15,000 messages all avaliable at once in lugnet.general, for example,
isn't a problem for a well-written newsreader, but it sounds like there are
some broken programs out there.  It should probably be whittled down to the
most recent 1000 or 2000 messages in each group -- or something like that.

I'd also love to see
posts be autoedited to have the URL of the post at the end or top or
something so that I could easily bookmark the post rather than marking it
unread because it has useful permanent information.

BTW, if you happen to get the news by mail, there's a header in each message
which contains a URL.

Actually what could be
even more interesting is if there was some way to tell the newsserver how
many days of posts you wanted it to present to you (perhaps by offering a
sequence of alternate news ports which coded the number of days or something
bizarre like that, I guess another possibility for members would be some way
to configure Lugnet).

Don't all client newsreaders have this option?  Just tell it to delete/purge
anything older than N days -- it's usually configurable on a per-group basis
too.

They *seem* to have this capability, but so far I have not been able to
get the desired result from it.

I keep thinking about writing my own newsreader for Lugnet which would take
advantage of some of what is known about the Lugnet news server. It could
easily allow creation of bookmarks to posts for example. I'd also like an
ability to mark a post and have that mark be kept track of, but have a
choice of showing marked posts or not. I'd also like an ability to show me
how many new posts since the last time I read the newsgroup, not just the
total number unread.

Sounds like you need Agent or Gravity!

--Todd

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(...) Hmm, that sounds like a client newsreader bug. It shouldn't be any slower with a well-written newsreader, whether there are 100 messages or 100,000 messages. (...) Well, at some point, I'll have to start archiving the old messages out of the (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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