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    Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
   (...) Which, according to the discussion group T&C, belongs in .market.auction only. An announcement of an upcoming auction is still an auction announcement. (...) c /could/should/ (...) That's a very odd statement, coming from someone who last (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
     (...) Err, not literally the same thing, of course. --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
      Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) (ie : (...) For a second I was going to ask if part of the problem was cross posting between lugnet.market.auction and lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade. Perhaps there should be restrictions on cross posting (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
     (...) On loc.uk we have a informal agreement which allows trades, selling items at zero profit and listing fest trade/sale items. I thought it'd never work. But, in reality, it works very well. The problem, as far as I am concerned, is how does one (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
      Scott-A wrote in message ... (...) at (...) That informal agreement is actually more restrictive than the charter for the group (per (URL) and (URL) any market post which is related to the UK and not an auction posting is allowed). If you want the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
      Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:FpsJ7M.6Kv@lugnet.com... (...) it (...) concerned, (...) UK (...) It is all relative. Before that we had a informal agreement which disallowed any auction/sale/trade posts. There was talk (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
     (...) Well, there's those "best offer by Saturday" type announcements which you have indicated as ok for buy-sell-trade (which I agree with when one looks at the market groups from a traffic perspective and what a potential buyer has to follow to (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
   (...) I still do not consider my _intentions_ to be "wrong". I think I did cancel trade/auction posts which I did make by mistake earlier this week (certailnly within the last 2 weeks), so I'm not all bad. (...) done (...) Some of these are close to (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
      Scott-A wrote in message ... (...) Hmm, wording on that one is actually a little clearer. (...) the theme group. (...) it really isn't in the right group, looks like he had trouble posting to lugnet.market.auction. (...) of offer is acceptable in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
      (...) consider (...) There are almost too many of these now. They just about justify their own group. (...) Of course my problemswould be solved if there was no auction/sale cross posting. Scott A (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
      (...) Of course, I'm skeptical that it would actually solve anything for you because you posted the same identical auction announcement to three separate groups last summer (each -- ahem -- with an intervening apology before the next repost). And of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
      (...) But there was no problem at the time? (...) How doesit evan relate to lego? (...) auction, (...) he (...) Still borderline. (...) It does appear to be a pre-action anouncment? (...) A slither away from what I did.? (...) hmm (...) Yes. But (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —James Brown
      (...) It relates to Star Wars. "lugnet.starwars– LEGO®/Star Wars®: products (information, opinions, reviews, licensing issues, etc.); building (settings, contexts, characters, projects, models, layouts, plans, tools, tips, etc.); inspiration (ideas, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
      Scott-A wrote in message ... (...) Sorry, shortcutting. I was saying that that posting is more clear what you are offering than your current posting. I know both have the same intent, the older one is better worded. Still, I think you could be more (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I'm not sure what you're getting on about, exactly. What line? (...) availability... (...) of BST OK-ness. (...) value. Where else would you put it? (...) grey in that he said he MIGHT be auctioning. (...) auctionishness to it at all except in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
   (...) Not 100% sure what line you mean, but I'm inferring that you mean posting auction announcements or updates to groups which don't explicitly welcome their presence (i.e., anything outside of .market.auction). (...) Sorta close, but not over the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
   (...) or (...) in (...) weekend") (...) by (...) I'm a little troubled by all this. I have explained my actions. There appears to be little opinion that my post was a "blatant" breaking of the rules. The post was a pre-auction announcement & a (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
   (...) Right then. I'll retract the word "blatant." Thanks for providing your other example of a pre-auction solicitation for straight-sale items which wasn't a problem -- it helps show much better what your intentions were. (...) Because it's not (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
     I'm having trouble collecting my feelings here into something I can post, so I am just going to say for now that I am troubled by the direction this situation is taking, and I'm feeling that Scott may be being unfairly targeted. I hope some other (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I think Scott's wrong and Todd is right, based on the facts. However, and this is as important if not more so, I think Todd may be overreacting. This (1) has clearly rubbed Todd the wrong way and it has the potential of blowing into a rather (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Scott Arthur
    (...) I would argure that it is my inaction which caused this situation. (...) lazy (...) auction (...) I'd settle for being treated the same as anyone else. Forget justice and injustice, I'll settle for equality. Look at this post: (URL) then this (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
     (...) Well, pressing the "Post Message" button (or equivalent) and causing an auction announcement to appear in .buy-sell-trade is hardly an "inaction." But whatever...the point was clear, I think. (...) You're being treated no differently from (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Mike Stanley
     (...) Wow. Those aren't just mistakes or carelessness, that first one is an example of willful disregard. I woulda zapped him. (...) No. I don't see it as a cross-post issue. I see it as a "announcement of intent to sell/trade" post to bst, with (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Mike Stanley
   (...) falls under the "this isn't technically wrong but it can annoy people" statement Todd made a while back. I'm of the opinion that it _should_ be as wrong as posting an auction announcement, but this ain't my sandbox. (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Todd Lehman
   (...) I feel that way too -- almost -- with the main exception being loc groups, especially if someone wanted to conduct their sale or trade purely in their local region/country/langu.../currency. IMHO, it probably ought to be more verboten in theme (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Mike Stanley
   (...) Yeah, I forgot about these, which is really funny, because something I _want_ to do right now is offer items for sale in the knoxville loc group so I can settle up quickly and with little effort with a few local people. I've feared that would (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Pre Auction Anouncment/Sale/Trade - Parts & Sets (8448 / 7171 / Pirates) —Frank Filz
    Mike Stanley wrote in message <1u8bass0c4pakeh9fjt...ax.com>... (...) their (...) more (...) In my opinion, the amount of non-auction market traffic which has occurred outside of the market groups is fairly reasonable. I think there are times when (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

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