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Re: The name/purpose of the QOTD group
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Date: 
Thu, 6 May 1999 22:51:16 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, lar@voyager.net (Larry Pieniazek) writes:
Mike Stanley wrote:

Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
I was serious about this. Make it moderated. I'm disappointed that not
one person even said "what a lame idea"... :-)

I thought the lameness of the idea was self-evident. :)

Really? Why? Do tell.

Seems a natural for a moderated group. And we need to experiment with
them here anyway. Heck, I volunteer to moderate it (for 6 months, no
more).

Hey Lar,
You -do- know what's involved in moderating, right?  You get mailed an NNTP
article via SMTP, which you then import into an editor, munge the headers,
add an 'Approved-By' header, and then repost via NNTP.  There are tools to
help with this, but I can't guarantee that they work on an MS OS.

I would probably try out pseudo-auto-moderation before subjecting anyone
(even a willing volunteer) to the process of human moderation.  The
.announce group, for example, is pseudo-auto-moderated in that it requires
the Followup-To header to be set on articles posted there.  That has worked
out pretty darn well.  The old .cad.dat group was also pseudo-auto-
moderated, but in a different way, and that also worked out pretty darn
well.

I think even without moderation, though, once a group gets going and people
see what's already there, they see what's expected in the group and
(generally) stick to that, learning by example.

A couple more cases in point...  Although the .admin.statistics group is
technically postable-to by anyone, no one has ever tried any antics/stunts
like launching a discussion there.  Because they see what's there and they
know that it's only posted to by the system.  And the .announce.lsahs group
is also postable-to by anyone, but no one has ever yet tried launching a
disucssion there, either.

For the QOTD group (if it stays around) a requirement could easily be set up
which requires that new threads -not be started- in the .qotd group (that
is, that all messages posted there must be followups to other messages,
presumably from other groups).  That would probably go a long way toward
curbing the traffic there.  And if -that- didn't have a positive effect,
then the requirements could be further extended by requiring that the parent
node of a new incoming article actually exist in a different group --
although this would effectively prevent followups with useful commentary or
"ROTFL"s.

--Todd



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  Re: The name/purpose of the QOTD group
 
(...) Yes. Long term you will probably provide an interface for members to do this easily. Till then, no problem. I'll have my lar@voyager.net account receive these. Munging the headers should not be a problem from there. It would be hard to do (...) (26 years ago, 6-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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(...) Really? Why? Do tell. Seems a natural for a moderated group. And we need to experiment with them here anyway. Heck, I volunteer to moderate it (for 6 months, no more). (26 years ago, 6-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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