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Re: The name/purpose of the QOTD group
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lugnet.admin.general
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Tue, 4 May 1999 23:03:16 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, galliard@shades-of-night.com (James Brown) writes:
> > [...]
> > Thoughts? Is this group, by its very name, no matter how carefully worded
> > in the charter, doomed and destined to being destroyed and recreated under
> > a different name, or not at all? Once something like this gets going (if
> > it does), these sorts of community QOTD resources can be quite a lot of fun.
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> I think it is a naming thing. When I first see "QOTD" it interprets as
> "somewhere to put cool quotes I heard" without any accompanying "on LUGnet or
> RTL" being intuited by my brain.
That's what I was afraid of last week, but I didn't listen to my gut. Shame
on me. Thanks for spelling this out.
> I think that what you may want to do, even though it goes against your general
> philosophy for LUGnet newsgroups so far, is give the group a non-intuitive
> name. Something like:
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> lugnet.off-topic.whiteboard
> lugnet.off-topic.reposts
> lugnet.off-topic.for-posterity
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> something like that, where it doesn't automatically intuit (as most of the
> lugnet.* does) as a summation of the charter, but after reading the charter,
> it makes sense - that way, people are more likely to read the charter to
> figure out what the group is about, instead of seeing the name, and assuming
> they know already.
Ahhh. The tense feeling that I've had in my stomach all day has just
subsided. Your general approach sounds like an excellent idea to me.
Of course, this group presents an extra challenge because (a) it's hard to
justify spending any more time on it and (b) no one champing at the bit for
it to happen.
> > BTW, I think the immediate flood of regular quotes may be an indication
> > that people might actually expect and want a plain old regular .quotes
> > group -- which wouldn't be a bad thing, but increases the chances for
> > copyright problems/issues.
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> As someone (possibly you, I'm not sure) posted in an earlier thread about
> this very subject, there are a gazillion(1) newsgroups and webpages and
> mailing lists out there that do, or are about, quotes. Maybe a group about
> Lego-related quotes...
>
> -->sound of light-bulb <--
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> Hey, how about:
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> lugnet.off-topic.lego_quotes
That would be almost perfect -- except that the .off-topic hierarchy is for
non-LEGO stuff (or for only-very-tangentially LEGO stuff).
> ? That implies immediately that it's not just any old quote, but a quote
> that is related to Lego in some way, and the majority of quotes that would
> show up elsewhere on LUGnet (like two of the three appropriate posts in
> .QOTD) would qualify. Also, it's fairly intuitive. (well, to me, at least)
I think it is too -- the only problem I see with it is the inclusion of
"off-topic" in the name when the tail end of it contains "lego". (BTW, I
doubt that anyone would think it's for TLG stock quotes. :-)
Would it be a knee-jerk reaction to kill the .off-topic.qotd group this
early (i.e., today) and talk about alternatives, then re-create it under a
new name and new charter? Or should it be given some time?
It's interesting to wonder what sorts of things might naturally fall into a
group called (as you suggested above)
lugnet.off-topic.whiteboard
Quotes and fun and silly things certainly could go there as a subset of what
it covered. And it would probably have a much more whimsical nature than
.off-topic.fun (which wasn't really created for silliness/whimsy but rather
for having serious or semi-serious discussions about fun things like
breakfast cereals, pets, music albums, etc.).
Anyone: What would the name .off-topic.whiteboard mean to you?
--Todd
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| (...) well, not being a whiteboard user, it doesn't mean anything initially, but once I checked it out, I would easily determine what it was. But my preference would be simply - lugnet.off-topic.quotes - for everything that has been posted so far. (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
| | | Re: The name/purpose of the QOTD group
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| (...) fun. Sorry to have infected it. Better kill it before it multiplies. (...) or (...) <snip> (...) duh. I guess I should have posted my messages about "Duel of the Fates" from the Star Wars soundtrack to .off-topic.fun instead. Todd, I guess (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I think it is a naming thing. When I first see "QOTD" it interprets as "somewhere to put cool quotes I heard" without any accompanying "on LUGnet or RTL" being intuited by my brain. I think that what you may want to do, even though it goes (...) (25 years ago, 4-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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