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Re: New spotlight weights( was Re: LDraw shortcut images in FTX
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Date: 
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:45:35 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > In lugnet.admin.general, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> 
> > > I would think you could figure that out by what they actually DO highlight. Why
> > > would you need to try to guess? I WANT to see .color and .lego and if they have
> > > to do an uphill battle thats not good IMHO.
> > 
> > Mark (and everyone), if you  have specific groups you want to see please go to
> > those groups and read them.
> 
> Well ya, thats kinda easy to figure out ;) I never said anything about how this
> was stopping that process. I know its not, I also know that is not what my post
> was about in any way.

Mark, I wish you (and others) wouldn't go deleting quotes included for context.
I've re-inserted the sentence you removed above, with I assumed to mean you
wanted to see posts in .lego and .color, which is the context in which I posted
my reply. I apologise if that is not what you meant. Did you mean you wanted to
see more posts from those groups in the top stories lists?

> > The spotlight feature is ONLY to choose what gets
> > put on the front page and other "top stories" pages.
> 
> This is kinda more on my point - but still not 100%. The adjusted highlight
> weighting is placing posts in the top spots when they do not get ANY highlight
> votes. And it is putting them above posts that DO get highlight votes.
> 
> What do you (question mainily aimed towards the Lugnet admins) think 'the
> people' want to see on the spotlighted list? Posts that got NO highlight votes?
> Or posts that got a few highlight votes? With this (miskewed IMHO) weighting
> system posts that get NO votes can be higher up than posts that DID get a few
> votes. According to Larry, people like the idea of a post getting no votes being
> above posts that do get votes. Sorry, that seems about as stupid as possible to
> me. It may not seem that way to you - and thats perfectly fine - to each his
> own. I am not banging down the doors yelling for them to change it ;)

Oh goodie, because it has been that way for quite a long time now, and I think
in several groups (.off-topic tree comes to mind), it is very useful. Sure the
weighting may not be set perfect, but I don't see a problem with that. Maybe the
.lego and .color weightings are unnecessarily negative, I'm not sure. Neither
are the admins probably. I tend to think in the case of .lego and .color it was
based on current events, and may well be adjusted in the future.

> > However, if it is posted to .announce, there's a fair likelihood it will be
> > something reasonably important, though that DOES rely on the poster's common
> > sense.
> 
> I have seen many things posted in .announce that I question if they should be in
> there all the time.

Me too. And they often get responses indicating maybe it's not the right place
to post.

> I guess we are going to see more abuse of this now that you
> can get the #1 spot by doing nothing more than cross-posting it there (if the
> conditions are right). And stopping people from doing this will be hard - or
> will Larry (random example of Lugnet admin) tell people their MOC or whatever
> "announcment" they have is not good enough? And if he does, who is he to be
> doing that? Maybe to the poster it IS 'good enough'

Well I think in the case of .announce.moc, it's very easy - if it's not about a
MOC it SHOULD be dealt with. If it IS about a MOC, it's ok no matter how good
the MOC is, unless it breaks some other policy (bad language, etc). General
.announce posts may not be so cut & dried, but fortunately they don't get nearly
so much positive boost from the weightings.

Note: IANALA

ROSCO



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  Re: New spotlight weights( was Re: LDraw shortcut images in FTX
 
(...) My entrie (first) post was about weighting and spotlighting. Nothing in the post was outside of that context, so there was no need to assume there was any more, or different, meaning to it. And no, I did not mean I wanted to see more of any (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  

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  Re: New spotlight weights( was Re: LDraw shortcut images in FTX
 
(...) Well ya, thats kinda easy to figure out ;) I never said anything about how this was stopping that process. I know its not, I also know that is not what my post was about in any way. (...) This is kinda more on my point - but still not 100%. (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  

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