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Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning on the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. The
rear of my car is compacted to almost nothing. I'm basically uninjured. A couple people came up to me after the accident and
mentioned that they were a little apprehensive about approaching for fear of what they would see in the car. Had anyone been in the
rear seats, they would have been being scraped up with a spatula. Fortunately there was no LEGO in the car, and I was in need of a
new car anywise. What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera. I'm going to go over to the junk yard tomorrow to
scavenge more stuff from the car, and I'll bring my camera and post some pictures. I may need to bring along a crowbar to get at
some of the stuff. The only thing I don't understand is how the SUV got enough speed in stop and go traffic to cause the damage that
was caused. My car and his truck were spun around and I came to rest against the guardrail looking back the way I had come. What's
kind of extra fortunate is that a cop was right there. A friend also happened to be there (though he didn't know that it was me
until he walked up to the car). He saw the cloud of debris go flying and saw the cop put on his lights almost before everything came
to rest.
Frank
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning on • the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. The
> rear of my car is compacted to almost nothing. I'm basically uninjured.
Ouch! I'm glad to hear that your alright. Don't you just love that adreniline
high? Have you come down yet? ( I don't mean to make jokes of this, trust me
getting hit really sucks. I've been there.)
> A couple people came up to me after the accident and
> mentioned that they were a little apprehensive about approaching for fear of • what they would see in the car. Had anyone been in the
> rear seats, they would have been being scraped up with a spatula. Fortunately
there was no LEGO in the car,
Oh wow! That could have been a real tragedy! You wald away, but minifigs are
horrible decapitated... I would have been apprehensive with a scene like that.
> and I was in need of a
> new car anywise. What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera.
> I'm going to go over to the junk yard tomorrow to
> scavenge more stuff from the car, and I'll bring my camera and post some
> pictures. I may need to bring along a crowbar to get at
> some of the stuff. The only thing I don't understand is how the SUV got enough
> speed in stop and go traffic to cause the damage that
> was caused.
Actually, you'd be suprised by how little energy is needed to utterly destroy a
car. However, SUV's are loaded with unnessesary power (for road use) and they
tend to have horrible brakes. I fear and loathe them. SUV's are the scourge of
modern roadways.
> My car and his truck were spun around and I came to rest against • the guardrail looking back the way I had come. What's
> kind of extra fortunate is that a cop was right there. A friend also happened • to be there (though he didn't know that it was me
> until he walked up to the car). He saw the cloud of debris go flying and saw • the cop put on his lights almost before everything came
> to rest.
I think that's the MOST shocking part of this. In Chicago, there is NEVER a cop
around when you need one!
> Frank
Frank, I think I can speak for the LUGNET community that losing you, or any of
our members would be unacceptable. We are close, maybe not in terms of true
friendship, but we all share a common intrest, losing someone in a tight
community such as our would be a heavy hit.
I thank what ever higher power that you believe in that you walked away from
this.
For a new car, think Ford Excursion. It's big, classified as a dump truck, and
you won't worry about crumple zones!
By the way, How did the SUV fare?
Glad your still here,
Greg Howell
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Frank,
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This • morning on the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. The
> rear of my car is compacted to almost nothing. I'm basically uninjured. A • couple people came up to me after the accident and
> mentioned that they were a little apprehensive about approaching for fear • of what they would see in the car. Had anyone been in the
> rear seats, they would have been being scraped up with a spatula. • Fortunately there was no LEGO in the car, and I was in need of a
> new car anywise. What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a • camera. I'm going to go over to the junk yard tomorrow to
> scavenge more stuff from the car, and I'll bring my camera and post some • pictures. I may need to bring along a crowbar to get at
> some of the stuff. The only thing I don't understand is how the SUV got • enough speed in stop and go traffic to cause the damage that
> was caused. My car and his truck were spun around and I came to rest • against the guardrail looking back the way I had come. What's
> kind of extra fortunate is that a cop was right there. A friend also • happened to be there (though he didn't know that it was me
> until he walked up to the car). He saw the cloud of debris go flying and
saw the cop put on his lights almost before everything came
Thank God you are all right! I have been in a few too, but no cars (deer,
tree, ditch). Good luck on all the things you have to do now.
Scott S.
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In lugnet.people, Greg Howell writes:
> In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> > Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning • on
> the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. The
> > rear of my car is compacted to almost nothing. I'm basically uninjured.
>
> Ouch! I'm glad to hear that your alright. Don't you just love that adreniline
> high? Have you come down yet? ( I don't mean to make jokes of this, trust me
> getting hit really sucks. I've been there.)
Yea, this is the third accident in 4 years. I've really got to get out of the
habit of smashing my cars when I'm tired of them (1st was a van which was
starting to fall apart, it wasn't totaled, but it came close - that time I was
rear ended by an 18 wheeler!, the 2nd time, someone ran a red light and hit
just behind the drivers side door, that car was one I had bought in too much
haste and didn't look at closely enough, it also lasted all of 6 weeks and 6
days in my possesion, the good thing on that one was that the insurance
company basically paid me what I paid for it, so I got out of a lemon for the
cost of a few minor repairs and a few bruises)! Now that I'm down off the
rush, I'm hurting a bit more. I'm going in to the clinic tonight to get
checked out.
> > and I was in need of a
> > new car anywise. What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera.
> > I'm going to go over to the junk yard tomorrow to
> > scavenge more stuff from the car, and I'll bring my camera and post some
> > pictures. I may need to bring along a crowbar to get at
> > some of the stuff. The only thing I don't understand is how the SUV got • enough
> > speed in stop and go traffic to cause the damage that
> > was caused.
>
> Actually, you'd be suprised by how little energy is needed to utterly destroy • a
> car. However, SUV's are loaded with unnessesary power (for road use) and they
> tend to have horrible brakes. I fear and loathe them. SUV's are the scourge of
> modern roadways.
Having been in a few wrecks, this was definitely disproporionate damage for
the maximum speed the SUV should have been going. The 18 wheeler just banged
up the rear of the van a bit, the other car which got hit in the side just got
it's interior volume reduced by a cubic yard or two, the dent was only a foot
or so deep (of course the other car also continued on down the road about 100-
200 feet so my car didn't absorb much of his energy at all). Back when I was a
kid we also hit a car which had run a red light in front of us. While it was
true that his car was an American sedan instead of a sub-compact, we were also
a full sized Ford van, and had been going at least 45 mph.
My guess is that the SUV driver suddenly noticed that traffic was moving again
(or at least had got a couple hundred feet from him), and he punched the gas
(not noticing that in fact by that time traffic had in fact stopped again
already). I didn't look to see if there were any skid marks before the
apparent impact point (I'm sure I left some rubber on the road).
Given that the other driver was a doctor in hospital garb, I'd love to know if
he was just coming off shift. If so, it would be another one to chalk up
against the ridiculous shifts doctors are required to take. I suspect his
being a doctor was part of the vehmence behind the cop's comment to him about
him having no buisiness driving like that.
> I think that's the MOST shocking part of this. In Chicago, there is NEVER a • cop
> around when you need one!
Our highways are pretty well patrolled. In the 10 mile stretch that I drive to
work, there are probably 5-6 troopers.
> For a new car, think Ford Excursion. It's big, classified as a dump truck, and
> you won't worry about crumple zones!
> By the way, How did the SUV fare?
Well, I am thinking of a larger car. I am not willing to join the SUV crowd
(though I'd certainly be comfortable driving one, I grew up on full size Ford
and Chevy vans).
Frank
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Fortunately there was no LEGO in the car...
Lego be damned -- be glad that you are alive, Man!
I understand that SUVs and other raised up vehicles represent a particular
hazard to more typical automobiles in an accident because they have a tendency
to get pushed up and ride over the other car, crushing down or otherwise just
removing the upper part of the vehicle and removing human heads as they go. I
love monster trucks and so forth, just not on the roads with the rest of us.
"An' it harm none, do what thou wilt."
And this is the trouble with SUVs and raised trucks of any kind: the "An' it
harm none" part...I am not normally in favor of regulation of anything, but
safeguarding the roads for common safety seems like a worthwhile reason to
dictate the design and height of vehicles on the road.
Glad to still have you here with us, Frank.
-- Richard (sending incomplete information now...)
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning on
> the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV.
<ka-snip!>
Nothing like a Matrix-bullet-dodging sequence to wake you up. Was the SUV at
least flying a skull-and-crossbones?
> What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera.
<snippage!>
Everyone concerned by this: go out and buy a disposable camera and put it in
your car (preferably a darker and cooler spot).
Glad you came out okay!
Time for some car shopping. I can see you in a huge SUV with no handling,
little stopping power, and poor rollover incidence *but* high pirate ship
hauling ability by the way...
:-0
Bruce
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Taking's Scott's cue to direct this towards .debate (though my response here
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In lugnet.people, Richard Marchetti writes:
> I understand that SUVs and other raised up vehicles represent a particular
> hazard to more typical automobiles in an accident because they have a tendency
> to get pushed up and ride over the other car, crushing down or otherwise just
> removing the upper part of the vehicle and removing human heads as they go.
Actually, in this particular case, I think the truck riding up onto my vehicle
may have saved me some injury. Of course if the truck had had a bit more
energy, I would have been a gonner for sure. In this case, the truck riding up
on my vehicle probably reduced the force of impact significantly. If he had
hit my bumber solidly, I think a lot less metal would have crushed.
Frank
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In lugnet.people, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> > Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning • on
> > the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV.
>
> <ka-snip!>
>
> Nothing like a Matrix-bullet-dodging sequence to wake you up. Was the SUV at
> least flying a skull-and-crossbones?
No, just being piloted by a doctor...
> > What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera.
>
> <snippage!>
>
> Everyone concerned by this: go out and buy a disposable camera and put it in
> your car (preferably a darker and cooler spot).
I'm not sure that would be worthwhile down here. After a couple months in the
car, I doubt the pictures would come out terribly good.
> Glad you came out okay!
>
> Time for some car shopping. I can see you in a huge SUV with no handling,
> little stopping power, and poor rollover incidence *but* high pirate ship
> hauling ability by the way...
Nah, I don't do SUVs. Full sized vans maybe. I am giving serious consideration
to a station wagon though (I had just about settled on a Saturn wagon [the
small one, not the new large one, that one's a bit more than I want to spend,
though it looks like it has good potential] until I read today's consumer
reports which almost totally panned the Saturn [though they were looking at
sedans not wagons]).
Frank
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Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:FzGCH2.88z@lugnet.com...
<snip>
> Now that I'm down off the
> rush, I'm hurting a bit more. I'm going in to the clinic tonight to get
> checked out.
<snip>
>
> Frank
I am glad you are still here! Do have a check up. This kind of hit can
really do a number on a person's back and neck. I bet they'll find bumps
and bruises that you didn't notice too.
Rest! and
take care,
sheree
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Wow, "geçmis olsun" Frank.
I was back crashed last year, and still have some waist pains from the
accident. I hope you don't have any permanent defects.
It's not good to hear that you had an accident, but it certainly good
that you are well after it..:-)
regards,
Selçuk, from a country in which daily amount of traffic accidents is
over a thousand..:-(
(I had been part of five in last two years)
Frank Filz wrote:
>
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning on the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. The
> rear of my car is compacted to almost nothing. I'm basically uninjured. A couple people came up to me after the accident and
> mentioned that they were a little apprehensive about approaching for fear of what they would see in the car. Had anyone been in the
> rear seats, they would have been being scraped up with a spatula. Fortunately there was no LEGO in the car, and I was in need of a
> new car anywise. What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera. I'm going to go over to the junk yard tomorrow to
> scavenge more stuff from the car, and I'll bring my camera and post some pictures. I may need to bring along a crowbar to get at
> some of the stuff. The only thing I don't understand is how the SUV got enough speed in stop and go traffic to cause the damage that
> was caused. My car and his truck were spun around and I came to rest against the guardrail looking back the way I had come. What's
> kind of extra fortunate is that a cop was right there. A friend also happened to be there (though he didn't know that it was me
> until he walked up to the car). He saw the cloud of debris go flying and saw the cop put on his lights almost before everything came
> to rest.
>
> Frank
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> > Time for some car shopping. I can see you in a huge SUV with no handling,
> > little stopping power, and poor rollover incidence *but* high pirate ship
> > hauling ability by the way...
>
> Nah, I don't do SUVs. Full sized vans maybe. I am giving serious consideration
> to a station wagon though (I had just about settled on a Saturn wagon [the
> small one, not the new large one, that one's a bit more than I want to spend,
> though it looks like it has good potential] until I read today's consumer
> reports which almost totally panned the Saturn [though they were looking at
> sedans not wagons]).
My sister can't praise her Saturn station wagon enough, although it's not a
new one (5-6 years old now?). Myself, I'm a big fan of Chevy Astrovans; big &
safe, and they haul a HUGE amount of cargo. (of course, I'm biased - my
father-in-law is a GM mechanic)
James
(trimmed loc.us)
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today.
Cheers.
As for the car shopping, Shaun Sullivan and I would like to recommend you look
into a Jeep Wrangler.
eric
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Frank Filz wrote:
> In lugnet.people, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > Glad you came out okay!
Ditto!
> > Time for some car shopping. I can see you in a huge SUV with no handling,
> > little stopping power, and poor rollover incidence *but* high pirate ship
> > hauling ability by the way...
>
> Nah, I don't do SUVs. Full sized vans maybe. I am giving serious consideration
> to a station wagon though (I had just about settled on a Saturn wagon [the
> small one, not the new large one, that one's a bit more than I want to spend,
> though it looks like it has good potential] until I read today's consumer
> reports which almost totally panned the Saturn [though they were looking at
> sedans not wagons]).
Well, since you mentioned station wagons, I have to put my two cents in! I drive
a Volvo 240 DL wagon and I love it! It holds tons of LEGO (you should have seen
what I packed into it during Target's January clearance!), still gets 24-26 mpg
(my NLSO can make it get 28-30), doesn't really look old (they all look pretty
much alike), and is still going strong at over 267,000 miles. It is also a frugal
choice if you do what we do and buy a used one (3-5 years old) and drive it for a
while. I was going to replace it with an 850 wagon when it reached 200,000 miles,
but it ran perfectly fine, so there was no reason to. Now I'll think about a
newer one again at 300,000 miles.
Of course, the drawbacks are that if you are not married with kids I can't imagine
why you would want to drive one. Also, Ford has taken over the Volvo car
division, so I don't know if that has affected the quality. And parts tend to be
expensive.
Maggie "I love my Volvo!" C.
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Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I took some pictures and have put together a small web
page:
http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
Frank
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"Frank Filz" <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:FzItyw.40v@lugnet.com...
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve • what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I • took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
WOW....
Thank God you're still with us, Frank. That's one heck of a rear end job.
--
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
Well, I will be the next to say "glad you are ok!"
I am surprised you "fared so well". I think these pictures are a great
reminder for people to "pay attention", "be patient" , and "get off the
freaking phone" when they are driving. I am glad to read the dr. who hit
you was chastized by the cop. Was he issued multiple tickets?
Those pictures are quite dramatic and reminiscient of accidents I used to
see in college coming back from a local ski resort...those accidents often
involved SUV drivers who had a few cocktails before leaving the slopes.
Frequently these drivers would tailgate smaller/lghter vehicles who had less
traction in the snow...circumstances were different, but the results were
remarkably similar.
I generally abhor SUVs in the areas I drive due to the habits of many of the
drivers. Locally, these drivers are not cogniscent of the incredible
breaking distances these vehicles require and they quite often drive them
the way I have driven Audis and BMWs on abandoned backroads. I believe they
serve a purpose, but I think people who own them should have special licenses.
I have driven most SUVs before (except a hummer and an exc
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this
afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I
actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns
out). While there I took some pictures and have put
together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
(It seems that I am still experiencing posting problems on Lugnet...hence
the reason why I no longer participate in most groups...too frustrating.
Forgive the 2 part message)
I have driven most SUVs before (except a hummer and an
excursion). They are quite unweildy in Urban and
stop+go traffic environments. I narrowly avoided
"destroying" a cab full of nurses we were following to
a conference in Orlando when another cab cut them off.
The suburban I was driving w/ six people stopped inches
short of the cab. (the difference being, I was driving
slow at a good distance behind, and I was paying
attention)
You are quite fortunate, I would say (besides the
obvious loss of your vehicle)
These accidents are more common than you would
think...Having been a medical sales rep, I heard half a
dozen stories of dr.s and nurses getting in accidents
while rushng back to the office after 8 hours of surgery
or falling asleep at the wheel and hitting parked cars.
My first semester of my senior year, right before
finals, 2 dental students rear ended me. I was driving
an old Ford FBI mid-size LTD, they were driving a 1978
Buick Lesabre (2+ tons of road war
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this
afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I
actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns
out). While there I took some pictures and have put
together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
(Let's try this again...looks like I will have to express all my thoughts in
acronyms or 3 sentences....Todd help!)
My first semester of my senior year, right before
finals, 2 dental students rear ended me. I was driving
an old Ford FBI mid-size LTD, they were driving a 1978
Buick Lesabre (2+ tons of road warrior fun). I was
stopped at a light behind a pick-up turning left. They
hit me at an estimated 45-50 miles per hour. A full
size 70's Bronco then hit them; a Total of 4 cars.
Long story short, my seat, steering wheel and seat belt
broke...I received a concussion and damaged knees...I
threw-up on a cop's shoes when they hauled me out of the
car.
I ended up in a cervical collar on metha-carbonol,
voltairin, praxin, and flexaril for 8+ weeks (graduated
from college a semester late due to missing a couple
exams)
I had to do the physical therapy gig for a couple months
and I still have neck/back pain over 8 years later if I
exercise strenuously.
Make sure you check w/ your dr... my concussion was
fairly immediately apparent...whiplash set in 48 hours
later (I literally couldn't move)
Take care of yourself...
J
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve • what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I • took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
Wow! That was quite an accident. This is a prime example of "SUV Road Rage",
IMO. I admit, I'm into the craze myself (though I've actually been driving
SUVs before the craze), but a lot of people think they are way too in control
of the road. Though there is no end in sight. At this year's Miami Auto Show,
one of the top five in the country, no less than FOUR new SUVs are debuting,
including a little number from Saturn. When Volkswagen and Porchse get thier
SUVs, the VW Colorado and Porschse Cayenne, in 2002, the only major (20,000+
sales annually) American-sold brands without an SUV or SUV will be Chrysler
and Jaguar (and Alfa Romeo...whose coming back in '03). Chevrolet has four
SUVs right now and will have six by the end of next year. Toyota has three
right now and adds two more next month. BMW is planning two more SUVs (in
response to customers who think the X5 is too big, welcome the X3. Those who
think the X5 is too small, welcome the X7), and Mercedes-Benz is planning on a
third one to compliment the M and G. And just wait until you see what
DaimlerChrysler has in store for late 2002 (it's going to be HUGE,
literally!). It is getting out of hand. As for a replacement...assuming your
looking at a wagon, I suggest a Saturn S-Series wagon, like you said, or one
of the new Volkswagen Jetta wagons (out February in major markets, April in
minor markets). Both are top notch in safety and reliability. Saturns now have
roll-over airbags (also known as side curtain bags).
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In lugnet.people, Mark Herzberg writes:
When Volkswagen and Porchse get thier
> SUVs, the VW Colorado and Porschse Cayenne, in 2002, the only major (20,000+
> sales annually) American-sold brands without an SUV or SUV will be Chrysler
> and Jaguar (and Alfa Romeo...whose coming back in '03).
Ooops! Left out two. Mini (returning to the US next fall with BMW's help) and
Saab (though they are working on something, just not for 2002).
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> > What's unfortunate is that no one at the scene had a camera.
>
> <snippage!>
>
> Everyone concerned by this: go out and buy a disposable camera and put it in
> your car (preferably a darker and cooler spot).
I have a one-shot APS in each car ;-) I did that after someone ELSE got lucky - I
was working on my car in SF in a friend's garage, and heard/felt someone hit the
building. I had my digicam because I was making a VFAQ of the car work, so I ran
outside, snapped pics left and right, got the victim's email address, and emailed
him the site that night to download them from. He got PLENTY of documentation, but
would have had NOTHING if I hadn't happened to be there that night.
--
Tom Stangl
***http://www.vfaq.com/
***DSM Visual FAQ home
***http://ba.dsm.org/
***SF Bay Area DSMs
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Get a PT Cruiser! ;-)
Frank Filz wrote:
> > Time for some car shopping. I can see you in a huge SUV with no handling,
> > little stopping power, and poor rollover incidence *but* high pirate ship
> > hauling ability by the way...
>
> Nah, I don't do SUVs. Full sized vans maybe. I am giving serious consideration
> to a station wagon though (I had just about settled on a Saturn wagon [the
> small one, not the new large one, that one's a bit more than I want to spend,
> though it looks like it has good potential] until I read today's consumer
> reports which almost totally panned the Saturn [though they were looking at
> sedans not wagons]).
>
> Frank
--
Tom Stangl
***http://www.vfaq.com/
***DSM Visual FAQ home
***http://ba.dsm.org/
***SF Bay Area DSMs
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KeeRIST! How fast did he accel in stopped traffic to do that?!? I'm surprised he didn't leave burnout marks from his start to
pound your car that bad.
If someone ever does that to me in my car, I really feel sorry for them, then for me. Because if I can get out of the car, I will
pound them into a pulp, then get arrested. But that's just me, I'm a little attached to my cars ;-)
Frank Filz wrote:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
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He probably dropped his cell phone and accidently stepped on the throttle while
looking under the seat for the phone <G> or the firestone Atx blew out under the
heat of stop and go traffic and he lost control.HaHa
Sheesh! Frank, I am really glad you got out of that basically unhurt. One
aspect of internet communication that I have always found difficult is the
possibility of this happening to someone and as far as we know all they did was
stop posting.
Unless there is a friend or someone else in thier town that can notify us of
the incident then its like they just disappear. I am really glad this wasnt't
the case this time.
Hope your new car has a higher bumper !
John
In lugnet.people, Tom Stangl writes:
> KeeRIST! How fast did he accel in stopped traffic to do that?!? I'm surprised he didn't leave burnout marks from his start to
> pound your car that bad.
>
> If someone ever does that to me in my car, I really feel sorry for them, then for me. Because if I can get out of the car, I will
> pound them into a pulp, then get arrested. But that's just me, I'm a little attached to my cars ;-)
>
>
> Frank Filz wrote:
>
> > Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> > salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I took some pictures and have put together a small web
> > page:
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
> >
> > Frank
>
> --
> Tom Stangl
> ***http://www.vfaq.com/
> ***DSM Visual FAQ home
> ***http://ba.dsm.org/
> ***SF Bay Area DSMs
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John Morgan wrote in message ...
> He probably dropped his cell phone and accidently stepped on the throttle while
> looking under the seat for the phone <G> or the firestone Atx blew out under the
> heat of stop and go traffic and he lost control.HaHa
He didn't have any blown tires, so that isn't a possibility. Cell phone might have been a possibility, but I'm putting more bets on
exhaustion due to an all night shift at the hospital.
> Sheesh! Frank, I am really glad you got out of that basically unhurt. One
> aspect of internet communication that I have always found difficult is the
> possibility of this happening to someone and as far as we know all they did was
> stop posting.
> Unless there is a friend or someone else in thier town that can notify us of
> the incident then its like they just disappear. I am really glad this wasnt't
> the case this time.
> Hope your new car has a higher bumper !
One thing I realized about this accident is that it probably was a good thing my bumper was lower. By climbing over me, he was able
to crumple far more of the rear of the vehicle, thus absorbing more engergy, and spreading out the impact force over a larger
distance. Also, had he hit my bumper squarely, it would have been more likely that he would have crushed my car against the
guardrail (though of course that would have engaged more of the front of the vehicle in energy dissipating crumpling, but I could
also have had the steering wheel jammed into me, or the engine in my lap. It would also have seriously increased the risk of fire,
and might well have made it much more difficult for me to get out of the vehicle. Also, by climbing over my vehicle, my trunk space
was between the gas tank and his engine, which may have helped keep a fire from starting (after extracting stuff from the car, and
seeing the burst fire extingisher I keep in the trunk, I wonder if it at all contributed to keeping a fire from happening - it was
basically stored right over the gas tank - on that note, does anyone have feelings on the best place to keep your fire extinguisher?
I suppose it's probably best kept next to the driver's seat as the most likely way you'll be able to use it is on someone elses car,
and if your car is on fire, you _might_ be able to grab it on your way out, being in the trunk probably renders it useless due to
how long it would take to get to it - of course the best place might be on a clip on the roof, where it can easily be reached
without opening or reaching into the vehicle).
> In lugnet.people, Tom Stangl writes:
> > KeeRIST! How fast did he accel in stopped traffic to do that?!? I'm surprised he didn't leave burnout marks from his start to
> > pound your car that bad.
There was a large space behind me, I think his inattention caused him to not notice that traffic was moving, thus leaving a huge gap
for him to close. I assume he failed to notice that traffic had already come to a stop again.
Frank
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I know this is a family group, but... daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! :-<
Frank Filz wrote:
>
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
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"Indian, indian, what did you die for? Indian says 'Nothing at all.'"
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, not quite, but I went to the salvage yard this afternoon to retrieve • what I could from the car (I actually got most of the
> salvageable stuff right after the accident as it turns out). While there I • took some pictures and have put together a small web
> page:
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/wreck2000/wreck.html
>
> Frank
It took me a while to figure out that your car was an Integra. For irony's
sake, it should have been an Accord. Why? 'Cause now it would be an
Accordian!
Bruce
Pssssst: PT Cruiser!
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This morning
on the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. ...<snip>
Good Lord man! I go away for a little while and
such momentous things happen! I do hope that you're
continuing to be OK and that the administratia is
coming along as tolerably as such can. I'm only
left wondering how you're getting around now!
best
Lindsay
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Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:G0CzpK.CKz@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
> > Well, I'm feeling extremely fortunate to still be alive today. This • morning
> on the way into work I got rear-ended by an SUV. ...<snip>
>
> Good Lord man! I go away for a little while and
> such momentous things happen! I do hope that you're
> continuing to be OK and that the administratia is
> coming along as tolerably as such can. I'm only
> left wondering how you're getting around now!
>
> best
>
> Lindsay
Yes Frank, reading Lindsay 's reply to your original post reminded me that
there had been no update on your condition. Are you aches and pains
better? Did the insurance get resolved to your satisfaction? Are you in
a rental still or in new vehicle? If so what did you decide upon? And of
course, how goes your building???
Hoping that you are not out caving this weekend in the monsoonish weather we
are having ...
take care,
sheree
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In lugnet.people, Sheree Rosenkrantz writes:
> Yes Frank, reading Lindsay 's reply to your original post reminded me that
> there had been no update on your condition. Are you aches and pains
> better? Did the insurance get resolved to your satisfaction? Are you in
> a rental still or in new vehicle? If so what did you decide upon? And of
> course, how goes your building???
>
> Hoping that you are not out caving this weekend in the monsoonish weather we
> are having ...
Sorry for the lack of update... Insurance settlement hasn't happened yet (one
monkey in that wrench is that the SUV driver only has $15k liability coverage
which may not be quite enough to cover all the damage). As of slightly less
than two weeks ago, I joined the Saturn family with a Gold 2000 SW2 wagon. It
got baptised this weekend driving up to West Virginia for a Labor Day weekend
caving event I always attend. It handled a LEGO purchasing stop in Danville VA
quite nicely (picked up some 1843s, the last of the old buckets they had, and
a few other older sets). My tent handled the rain quite niceley, and the
Saturn did quite well in the rain and mud (though she isn't as pretty right
now...). I still have some aches and pains, and will be looking into some
follow up care (I plan to try and get medical advice to see a massage
therapist, even if my HMO won't cover it, if I get that advice, I can seek re-
imbursement from the other driver's insurance). I haven't had a chance to do
much building (did sit down one evening and throw a set together). For those
wondering what has happened to the Technic Jambalaya box that arrived at my
abode at an unfortunate time, I hope to get it moved along this week.
Frank
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In lugnet.people, Frank Filz writes:
>
> Sorry for the lack of update...<snip update>
Thanks for the update, and welcome to the Saturn family. I
may join you (my sister already has) when my current beast
dies at long last (if it ever does--Geo!). Glad to hear
everything is starting to shape up, and I'm amazed that you
can actually have so little liability coverage ($15K? Sheesh!).
But at least now you won't have to rent Isuzu Troopers for
your meets. ;)
Incidentally, did you get the siege mortar safely? I posted
it to you just before going back to MI, so it would have arrived
on or about the unfortunate day. :( Incidentally I do have
a few colour pictures of bomb ketches from the 18th-C., but I
have no scanner and no file access to the internet! I can
however take pictures of them and possibly post you files or
photocopies if necessary. (They're from the Archibald book
I mention in .pirates.)
best,
Lindsay.nl
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Mr L F Braun wrote:
> Thanks for the update, and welcome to the Saturn family. I
> may join you (my sister already has) when my current beast
> dies at long last (if it ever does--Geo!). Glad to hear
> everything is starting to shape up, and I'm amazed that you
> can actually have so little liability coverage ($15K? Sheesh!).
> But at least now you won't have to rent Isuzu Troopers for
> your meets. ;)
Well, the trooper would hold more than the Saturn, but if I left all the
LEGO I brought for potential building, I could easily fit into the
Saturn, probably even when I add more ships.
> Incidentally, did you get the siege mortar safely? I posted
> it to you just before going back to MI, so it would have arrived
> on or about the unfortunate day. :( Incidentally I do have
> a few colour pictures of bomb ketches from the 18th-C., but I
> have no scanner and no file access to the internet! I can
> however take pictures of them and possibly post you files or
> photocopies if necessary. (They're from the Archibald book
> I mention in .pirates.)
Yes, the seige mortar arrived just fine (though it may have had a couple
things knocked off). I actually managed to do more damage to it trying
to put it on a larger base (but I fixed it). I'll have to make several
for myself.
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Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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