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Brickshelf L.L.C is pleased to announce that its LEGO(r) instruction and catalog archive is now available online at (URL) . This archive contains scans submitted by hundreds of LEGO fans that are organized, indexed and presented by Brickshelf. Its (...) (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.announce.brickshelf) !!
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And there was Much Rejoycing! HUZZAH! Opps, did my castlehead show itself? (...) (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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And the people rejoyced!!! Hmmm, "generous support from the LEGO Company"? :-) (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) This is great news. On behalf of myself, my two sons, and, I'm sure, numerous users, I thank Kevin for having managed to keep the instruction and catalog archive alive. Michel Harnois Montreal, Canada (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Goodie! I'm glad you are back in business! :-P Pedro (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Woo hoo! Alright! Thank you! *sorry for that rant there* It's exceptionally great to see those scans back on brickshelf once again. I applaud Lego's generous support for bringing those instructions back, and I'd like to let you know that I'm (...) (22 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Thank you, thank you, and finally, thank you! It is nice to see something like this work out! Mike (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I applaud the integrity shown by Kevin Loch for requesting explicit permission from The Lego Company to make instruction and catalog scans available on a commercial web site BEFORE actually doing so. As Kevin and others have pointed out, a (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Hear hear! (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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I admit I was one of those who was upset, but I was not angry at Kevin. After all, he DID do all the right things that are necessary when making the transition from a hobbyist to a business person. I am glad that LEGO(r) has given him special (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Kevin, hello everybody, I certainly appreciate the enormous amount of work that you and others put into brickshelf over the years, and the value this has created for the LEGO community. This is why I found it very disturbing to see the LEGO(r) (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Personally, I think Kevin did the right thing. And he gets extra points from doing it on his own. Why do you think that he should have waited for LEGO to complain? The fact that he probably _could_ get away with it doesn't mean he _should_ (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I agree, and further, the people here jiggling his elbow (including, regrettably, me) while he was engaged in what had to be delicate negotiations probably weren't helping matters with their thoughts, analysis and suggestions although surely (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Ouch! The zipfiles were THE manner in which I would view instruction manuals. If the zipfiles were too much hassle bandwidth-wise, how about making cd-roms of the library available for sale to fund the library? If I could get the extant (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I think Kevin gets this privilege de facto because he is the one maintaining the library. That some other person(s) should have a backed up copy of the library would probably be prudent and has hopefully already been accomplished. (...) I (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Thank you Brickshelf & LEGO, This has been on my mind nearly daily, wondering if the scans would return and in what form. With the re-release of sets from TLC in the LEGENDS theme I was sure that LEGO would have to sanction set instructions. Thanks (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) That is required to prevent claims from those who submit material to us. It is standard business practice (think of contests where people submit entries). To be clear, yes it does mean that you give up any and all rights to scans you submit to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Ewww! (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) if any did threads like this: (URL) Lego's decision? Aaron D. (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) [SNIP-PED] (...) Thank you for the effort and thank you for keeping the site alive. It's my almost-most favorite website on the whole of the Internet! Mark -LUGNET being THE most favorite- de Kock (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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I just want to add my thanks too. Thanks for maintaining such a great site. Duane (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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I have a quick question for ya. I have a few catalogs which are not shown (Shop at home, product catalogs, etc). Is there interest to have these too? Alternate covers? Etc etc? I could bring them back from home to scan if there is. Also, how about (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Yes, every version of every catalog (except current vendors catalogs) are acceptable. (...) We don't currently have Mania Magazines in the collection, and I don't believe we have permission to post them. KL (22 years ago, 15-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Obviously, it's great to have the scans back and good to hear that Lego is giving permission and "generous support". But, what is not so clear to me is just how generous Lego's support is? Is it sufficient to cover all of brickshelf's volume (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) That's an excellent idea. I hope Kevin reads this and LEGO would support it. I think $20 for such a CDROM would not be unreasonable and lots of people would happily pay it. --Bill. (22 years ago, 15-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Dan, (...) Actually, I don't think that. (...) I agree. (...) I understand that. I don't see, however, for now, how the bill is going to be paid for from now on. But I guess Kevin has an idea ... I think I have understood more of the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Richard, (...) I have no problem with Kevin deciding alone what to do with his copy of the scans. However, trying to exclude people who contributed the scans, which is what I understand from the sentence: is not something I will accept for the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Larry, hello everybody, (...) I do understand by now what was going on in the last few weeks, and why. However, there hasn't been much response to my second point, which was about Brickshelf L.L.C. claiming all rights with uploaded scans: (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Kevin, (...) Which types of claims are you talking here? I can see that submitting does not GIVE them any rights above and beyond the ones they have, so they cannot CLAIM anything. But how could they claim any rights, from submitting to (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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I'm not a lawyer, but I understand this to mean: Anything uploaded to Brickshelf, bet it scans, digital pics, gif files, text files, whatever, becomes property of Brickshelf in the regards that Brickshelf can do whatever with those files (print (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Read what I wrote carefully. It adresses material *submitted* to the Library. That means you have no control over what Brickshelf does with it's copies of what you submit. In other words, you can't revoke your submission, or suddenly decide (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Kevin, (...) I am glad to hear this from you directly. Maybe the whole issue here is that English is not my mother tongue, so I didn't get the proper meaning of the jurisdictional terms. How will you handle scans that have been uploaded before (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Oops, there was something missing in my posting here: (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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Hello Mark, (...) Well, if that is what it means, this certainly differs from what I understood when I read: (...) because with property I am usually free to even sell it. Also, since we are talking intellectual property here, I thought it would (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Only materials submitted to the Brickshelf _Library_ become property of Brickshelf. Materials uploaded to the _Gallery_ remain with the original owner. This really isn't complicated, you just can't control what Brickshelf does with scans you (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I'm with you on that one. If I can't download in one lump to print it out or store for archival use, then its of no real value to me. I am not going to memorize a couple of steps, then run to the Lego room and build, come back and do the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Yeah, I have to agree with you. The computor with internet as at the oppisite side of the house. I used to zip instructions and move them to my personal, non-internet computor. Now I can't do that! John Kruer (22 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Does FTP still work? If so, couldn't you download the lot and move them en masse to your non-interent computer? Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
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