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    Re: the latest news —Todd Lehman
   (...) Well, it doesn't really mean (and isn't supposed to mean) anything profound but simply that the 40 is 10% higher than 30 on the recommendation-to-read scale. Similarly, an 80 is simply 10% higher than a 70 -- nothing profound. But the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
   
        Re: the latest news —John Koob
      Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) members (...) eliminate (...) might (...) help? Yes. I would also suggest that some explanatory text (i.e. how ratings should be interpreted) be added to the rating histogram page itself. I think that some (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
   
        Re: the latest news —Thomas Main
     In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <snip> (...) Yes, that's a great idea. <snip> (...) words, (...) Yes, I think that would alleviate the perception that certain people don't approve of the posts someone else is making...I like the idea of (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general) ! 
    
         Re: the latest news —Todd Lehman
     (...) Do you mean that from the point of view of a producer or a consumer of the rating information (or both)? As a producer of ratings, it is certainly your right to treat the rating levels more coarsely if that helps you produce ratings more (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
    
         Re: the latest news —Thomas Main
     (...) I think both would be useful... (...) And the few times I have used the system...that's the way I've used it. I marked a few articles I read at "100" -- I don't think I would ever rate an article "0" though...I only rate things that I think (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general) ! 
    
         Re: the latest news —Charles Eric McCarthy
      (...) I just thought of a way to alleviate this problem. Don't publish the average rating unless there are at least N values (N = 10?). If there are fewer than that many values, just say "insufficient sample" or something like that. That way only (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
     
          Re: the latest news —Ben Roller
      (...) I think that if N can be defined by the users, this would work well. I personally think that if even one person rates a message that some information is better than none. However that's just me, and I think that new users would like to have N (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
    
         Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Todd Lehman
     (...) Probably depends on how quickly they can rate articles. Through the website, it's a little cumbersome to give input on everything -- a lot of scrolling and mouse-clicking and waiting, etc. But using a custom newsreader client, it can be as (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
    
         Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Richard Franks
      (...) Apologies if this has been asked before and I missed it, but is this available? It sounds *extremely* useful! (...) Yep! Yep! Yepyepyepyepyepyep! Useful! Yepyepyep!! Yeeeep! Actually, if that included fuller search capabilities as well (date, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Todd Lehman
       (...) Mine is a horrible hack crufted together to run in text mode with Curses on my particular home machine, but Jeremy Sproat has written a general-purpose platform-independent newsreader in Java, and I think he might be considering adding rating (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
      
           Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Richard Franks
        (...) If you mean that it would be virtually impossible for me to do some hacking of my own to get it working, or you're embarrassed to share the source, then fine! Otherwise, I'm still interested :P (...) Yup - these are cool developments, but (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
       
            Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Todd Lehman
        (...) It's not particularly bad code or anything like that, it's just that it was an evolve-mode prototype -- didn't know Curses at all before digging in (still don't know it well) and wasn't sure it would even end up working. It also is still using (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
       
            Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Richard Franks
        (...) Funky! (...) Yup - I forgot to mention that I expected no support for it :) In fact, if someone doesn't take up the challenge before me (I couldn't justify it until June, so it's likely they will!), it would make a good way to get a bit more (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
      
           Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Jeremy H. Sproat
        (...) Well, the Java client is mine, but I'm not considering adding a rating capability until after I can get posting to work (1). Dan is working on a non-Java client (Perl?), with which he does plan on supporting article rating. Cheers, - jsproat (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
      
           Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Dan Boger
       On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:07:52 GMT Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote concerning 'Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news)': (...) I'm still working on my perl/tk based streamer... it's coming along slowly, since work keeps bugging me. What (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
      
           Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Todd Lehman
       (...) The avid.cgi script is meant to serve things continuously, not backward in time, so adding the header to that doesn't fit its design very well. (It would also add load to it.) (But serving the ratings via something specially constructed to (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
     
          Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Shiri Dori
      (...) No, you wouldn't be alone!! I'll join with Big Bird any day for those enhancements. -Shiri (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Article rating (was: Re: the latest news) —Todd Lehman
     (...) Yikes, I gotta watch my wording. There's nothing to read between the lines there -- those are two separate statements. I realise that rating takes time and that not everyone has time or wants to spend it. (...) Intimidating was a poor word (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: the latest news —Richard Franks
   (...) Maybe something expaining the "judge whatever you feel" philosophy? Rather than 'an average post should have 50', 'a more than average post should have 60' etc.. (...) Erm, I'm flattered! :) But I really didn't mean to say that anyone should (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
   
        Re: the latest news —Todd Lehman
   (...) I wanted to try that out, to see how well it worked and, after doing that statistical analysis last week (in reply to your original message about what 50 could mean) was encouraged that the average average was already near 50 (I think it was (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general) ! 
   
        Re: the latest news —Richard Franks
   (...) Agreed - as I see it, the problems created by the rating system aren't because some posts are bigger than others, but rather because people can't avoid seeing the ratings that they recieved. Especially when the ratings are for harmless (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
   
        Re: the latest news —Charles Eric McCarthy
   Richard Franks wrote: [snip] (...) [snip] I think it should be the other way around. Red for low bandwidth, violet for high bandwidth. /Eric McC/ (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: the latest news —Richard Franks
     (...) Yeah, the colours are a bit squiffy! Bronze, light bronze, silver, light gold, gold? (Silver being light grey or white) Richard (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: the latest news —Todd Lehman
   (...) Blue and purple/violet are automatically out anyway because of traditional link colorings. Green is out because green text looks horrible on white background. A statistically significant portion of the population is also some form of (...) (24 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)  
 

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