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    Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) ?? Why the talk, even in jest, of starting letter writing campaigns, etc., then?? ++Lar (23 years ago, 15-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.build, lugnet.build.arch)
   
        Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Neal
      (...) Well, it is more of a philosophical argument, really. I am coming from more of a model railroading POV, where buildings are merely facades and it's all about *external* appearances. Then there are those in the club who build a building, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Ah, excellent, a philosophical argment. Recall, if you will, that I've been getting TRAINS since 1970, and it was only recently that I let my Model Railroader subscription, started in 1969, lapse. So I'll see your "model railroading (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Neal
      (...) Perhaps one could argue that it's all about *LEGO*. When push comes to shove, we at the GMLTC don't push *trains* necessarily, but the concept of *LEGO*-- creativity, etc. Most of us were fans of the brick first. So whether dad is inspired by (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Right, point taken. I neglected that perspective, but it is indeed the one that most of us come from (and rightly so(1))... LEGO hobbyists who happen to do things that train shows attendees enjoy, rather than model railroaders who happen to (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Kelly III
      ...snipping... (...) ...Snipping... (...) John- There was no surprise that we were going to have problems with some of the building you've built. We talked about it before you built them. We talked about our focus not being miniland, but more along (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Neal
       (...) Now I've done it-- I've upset the J-s:-/ (...) Ouch. Compared to AlGore.... how low have I sunk? -J-2 (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Scott Holcomb
     With all due respect to all parties involved, I don't understand what is going on here. In our club (GFLTC) we have created an environment that is malleable enough to accommodate anyone’s ideas and creations. This is not work, this is play. Play is (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Neal
      (...) Hey Scott- Let me just jump in here and say that the GMLTC is unique in a few ways. First, since we are solid modules of bricks, everything must have an exact place, and usually that will not change for the life of the layout. The GFLTC and (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Gerlach
      (...) WHAT?? Is this a case of history being written by the victors? You lobbied for MONTHS about switching to 8-wide... You brought over several train cars you had built 8-wide, you even brought some to shows, knowing they wouldn't fit on the old (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Gerlach
     (...) A minor addition: If we make our buildings using a 'standard' footprint, it will allow us to mix & match them a little bit, so perhaps our town might get re-arranged between (or during!) shows. The way the town is currently "planned" (a word (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Gerlach
   (...) Because he has been shot down every time he approaches the GMLTC with a new building he has created. He figures that if he can get enough people to voice an opinion (preferably *his* opinion!) that the GMLTC will suddenly cave in and welcome (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Neal
      (...) Guilty. (...) No, I think you *did* try that once:-) (...) Not true. I did cave on the chateau.... (...) See? *You'll* get a variance cuz everyone likes you more than they like me! (...) Okay, I've had my fun online; I will behave now. -J-2 (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Kelly III
      (...) ..snipping.. (...) Actually I was surprised that I was as open as I was with the buildings you've done. Especially since we had told you ahead of time that they would be too big. I'm not sure I'll like John1's any better. I know I'd like your (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
       Two points... 1) a minor point of information: (...) Can you elaborate on what playtheme vs. miniland is? Thanks. 2) a major point of philosophy It was not my intent in working this thread a bit to - stir up intra GMLTC disharmony. (what we see is (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
      
           Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Kelly III
        (...) ...snip... Mostly a way to distinguish between the difference in scale and thought between what's in a Lego mini-land display and a play theme display that they used for toy fairs and that you usually see in toys 'r' us type displays. In (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
      
           Re: Pic: New Green Building —Scott Holcomb
        (...) Let me start by saying that I apologize if it seemed as though I was attacking GMLTC or any other group. That was the furthest from my mind. I was simply trying to put forth the idea that this is supposed to be fun and from the thread so far (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
      
           Re: Pic: New Green Building —Ed McGlynn
       I agree, Larry, and I support your investigation of these dynamics. Fascinating. Ed (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: Pic: New Green Building —Katie Dokken
      (...) Uh oh! Guess I'm boring as well. I only furnish the first floor of those buildings that you can see into. I never even make floors for the other "floors." Why bother if you can't see in anyway? Waste of brick. No wonder my buildings aren't (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
     
          Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Kelly III
      Actually, that's not what I was saying. In this particular instance, one can see into the building. And the ones next to it that are full of activity. If you can't see in, I'd agree that there is no reason to do the detailing unless one wants. (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Chris Leach
     (...) John,what do think? Can this "Make the cut"? (URL) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Tim Strutt
     (...) Now that is what I call an airport! I am so jealous. I can only dream of owning enough LEGO to build such an awesome MOC. I think I'll go cry now. Seriously though, my hat is off to whoever built that. That is just awesome. Tim Strutt 8^) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Chris built it (he completed it AT the show). It's a great example of how not limiting size too much can end up with jaw dropping models. It's also a great example of how not structuring your displays can end up with one model dominating an (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Chris Leach
     (...) Tim like Larry said i had to finish it at the show(it didn't make the trip to well) I actually had to cut down on my design to make it fit at the show.I originally had a 20 gate terminal but cut it to 10 gates.For the next show i am rebuilding (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Josh Baakko
     (...) When is the show? I'll see if i can make it down there to show some of my stuff too. Josh (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Chris Leach
     (...) July 21st-22nd (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Josh Baakko
     (...) Woho, i'll see about getting there, but i'll need the place and times, ad stuff like that! Josh (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Chris Leach
     (...) Josh as soon as i get that info from GATS (show times,setup times etc.) i will pass it on.I'm sure Steve B. And Larry P. know the place as they live in G.R. area but i have only been in the area once(steves house). (...) (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: Pic: New Green Building —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) They sent me literature so I theoretically already have this info!!! I need to dig it up and coordinate with you guys about who is sending in the form and payment etc. FUT lugnet.org.us.michlug ++Lar (23 years ago, 19-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
   
        Re: Pic: New Green Building —Eric Sophie
   Whoa, Gentleman may I make a freindly Observation, - Please, just 'cause I stumbled onto this thread. Well, you Train guys are a tight lot. Meaning, a great deal of thought goes into a given layout as a whole. Now that's not to say that others (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Pic: New Green Building —John Kelly III
   John Neal makes this same point in another post as well. The GMLTC layout is different from most others in that Conan has enough bricks to build the whole 16-module section with his own bricks. It's less like other layouts where people each bring (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
 

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