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Re: Apathy? (was: WAMALUG's GATS Layout was a huge success!)
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org
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Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:06:53 GMT
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"James J. Trobaugh" wrote:
> Maybe I should have stated myself a little differently earlier. I do realize that
> seeing what others do pushes us all to strive to do better, and I believe that's a
> very healthy part of completion. I have no issue with that at all. I believe that
> is what has made people successful in all aspects of life. Those who continually
> work to do better, to push themselves, are the ones who made this world the great
> place it is today.
>
> I think the thing I'm concerned about is that it becomes an unhealthy atmosphere
> were others are afraid to try and start clubs or share their own creations for fear
> that they will be shunned or outcast. I think that the LEGO train community needs
> to keep encouraging others to do their best and keep pushing harder. Much like the
> other model rail clubs do.
>
> Currently I don't see anyone being treated poorly in the LEGO train community,
Then you must have missed all of the chiding tossed the 8 wide way;-)
All seriousness aside, I don't think anyone has any ill-thoughts or intentions to
anyone in .trains. Perhaps some of the kidding and smack-talking might *appear*
malicious to an outsider or a newbie, but it's harmless. Larry rarely misses an
opportunity to take a shot at 8 wides, but I know it's all in fun-- he's a good friend
and a fellow GMLTCer. Mike says he wants to build a layout more impressive than the
GMLTC's. I say "you go, boy!" I wish him all the luck (he's gonna need it, or
perhaps just a *lot* of spare time;) Good-natured kidding around builds camaraderie,
IMHO
> I just hope that we keep sight of the reason we do trains in the first place, and
> not
> let it become a hostile situation were some people don't feel welcomed.
I don't think it has or ever will *be* hostile (at least not that I could tell), only
perceived as such. So perhaps we kidders will have to be more sensitive of newbie
presence in .trains. Of course, in the more selective .trains.org we should be able
to rip each other apart;-)
-John
> That's all I meant, I do know that every time I see images of what others have done
> that I need to work extra hard to do better also. That's what makes it so much fun,
> doing things that I didn't think I could do.
>
> Mike Poindexter wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.general, James J. Trobaugh writes:
> > >
> > > I agree with Larry that we need to becareful not to let the LTCs become a
> > > competition among each other. I do believe that by looking at what each club • has
> > > done keeps others motivated to do more. I'd really hate to see it come down • to a
> > > one club versus another. Some days I become overwhelmed trying to keep up with
> > > the other clubs, but after I do a show I get all fired up and I'm ready to • build
> > > some more.
> >
> > I have to disagree a bit here. As a highly competitive person, I work better
> > when I feel that I must compete *against* somebody. Competition really does
> > drive innovation and pushes the envelope further. As long as it does not
> > become a destructive competition or foster harsh feelings, competition would
> > be good.
> >
> > Personally, I would not be working so hard on my layout if I was not trying
> > not to be put to shame by Conan's. I want one better than his. That is the
> > competitive spirit that is going to drive me to put in overtime on my layout.
> > I would love to have another 3-4 people making layouts this big. Each person
> > could specialize in an area, trying to make their section better than the
> > other people's. One could do a harbor, one could have a city, one could make
> > a mountain scene, etc. I would love to be able to devote my entire layout to
> > 2 sections of what a show would need and let others specialize in other
> > areas. Competing against eachother helps us to raise the bar, which helps us
> > compete against the real rival - model trains.
> >
> > After all is said and done, I want everyone to make better layouts. Just like
> > the new Supercar is more complex than to former, we should have a natural
> > progression of making better and better layouts, and we all can benefit from
> > the fruits of competition.
> >
> > Mike
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> James J. Trobaugh
> North Georgia LEGO Train Club
> http://www.ngltc.org
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