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  New Poll
 
I'm at it again... (URL) (The Train Troll) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) You forgot one important answer, so I canot answer your poll at all: I build all stuff in 7 wide now, since that is my personal favorite compromise in running behaviour and look. Additionally 7 wide can still run among 6-wides. 7-wide = trains (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
Agreed. The advantage of 7-wide is also that it runs fine on 12V track, 8-wide will not. My original idea of 7-wide was "broad gauge". 7 wide looks more real as wheels are really under the train. Still, front sheilds on engines are problems when (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll / only boring promotion for 7-wide trains once again.
 
(...) Right Sonnich, I forgot to mention that this timme. Last point for 7-wide is the quite good relation between height (more or less same as 6-wides) and width. At least for European trains this should be somewhere around 1.2:1 for any closed (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
7 Wide for me too + narrow guage of varying studs width depending on size of prototype Tim (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) I agree. I try to build all new trains 7 wide. It's a bit more work but it does seem to be the ideal size for the track. KL (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) *Ideally*, given that the gauge of the track is just under 5 studs, the correct train width would be 10 studs wide (assuming standard gauge of 4 feet 8 1/2 inches). That puts you at a scale of 1 stud = 1 foot. That makes minifigs about 5 feet (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) You also forgot 1-wide 8?) ROSCO (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) And 2 wide! Which, after all, LEGO themselves did. (URL) did Shaun Sullivan. And that makes it official. :-) Really, if people are going to make polls (for anything other than trolling, that is), it would be nice if they did a little asking (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
Snip (...) Snip this does of course change with the different loading gauges used in countries, eg US is bigger than Europe which is bigger than UK, using the same track gauge. this has been covered before (URL)Nine would be okay, but going odd (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Minifigure Scale
 
It would also make minifigures around 3-4 feet wide with a 18" diameter head. It's silly to think you can use the mini-figures to prototype anything to the level of detail you want to model. For your pure prototyping you might as well use your own (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) Or at least add a "other" alternative to cover everything else... Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) SPAM when e-mailing) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) widths), (...) I have do disagree somewhat, John! There IS in fact much difference. At least in one point which is quite important for classic Eurotrash: ask for e.g. Dirk 'Rollingbricks' Meyer for his problems with 8-wide 2-axle cars (as they (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
Hi Ben and John, first my name is written Meier, not Meyer. Ben will never learn this ;-) For sure, it makes a real big difference. Mostly all freight cars before the 2nd world war have been 2 axle cars in Germany, same applies to other european (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) This reminds me of the legend of the current standard gauge, - that it was passed down from Roman times because that's what their chariot wheel widths were. Well, in the case of Lego where did our gauge come from? Where did 9V gauge come from? (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) Dirk? Wo sind Sie? Lassen wir sprechen! (...) Proof! I need proof! Weigh your 7 wides against any 8 wides (but be sure to weigh the same lengths (2 8wides vs 3 6wides, for instance). (...) I must say that the coolest designs of LEGO trains (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) G' Morning, John! (...) I'm not Dirk, but I can try to tell him, you asked for him. He announces on this board now and then, so he might follow anyway... [length, width, weight]. (...) I would tend to compare even 3 waggons against 3 waggons (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Width with respect to weight (was: Re: New Poll)
 
(...) I noticed the gaff, but didn't want to embarrass Rhinehart;-D (...) I don't normally make 2 axle cars, but I did create an Annie and Claribel for my Thomas the Tank Engine recently. These cars are British, and while they are pretty straight (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
In lugnet.trains, Matthew J. Chiles writes: <snip history of LEGO train gauge> (...) "thin challenged"? (...) Ahh, my new favorite pet scale: 8wide....GAUGE:-) (1:24 scale) Of course you are right, Matt. When I model "prototypically", it is really (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll
 
(...) Hehe. :^) (URL) studs with the running boards. I'm getting a whole line of these guys together. -Stefan--"8-wide rules!!!"-G. p.s. Sorry 'bout the crappy pic quality. (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History
 
(...) Hi Matt, that is not correct as far as I know. All train always used special train wheels (except from none-track based ones like 323 + 396). But you are right: in the early years (from 1966 - 1971) they used the standard wheel blocks. First (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Postscriptum - Train History
 
(...) P.s.: [(except from none-track based ones like 323] Just got a mail from a German Co-Afol, who follows the gauge and scale discussion with interest, but who can't manage to post here on Lugnet. BTW: he builds in all three scales 6-wide and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History / Set114
 
(...) Hi Ben, From my childhood I recall we owned this set, and we got it together with 113, from a frieds father who was a kind of marketing-employee at Lego-Holland. I'm almost 100% certain Set 114 did NOT have any instructions at all! Also not on (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History
 
(...) I think you might be right Ben, we have been collecting Lego trains since 1972 and even bought a few used sets at that time. My trains have always had train wheels, initially with four studs (as you say) and later spoked. Some of the Lego (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History
 
(...) wasn't that the reason? as far as i remember the loco wheels had a different angle to the runnung surface so that the rubber bands would not slide of so easily. thomas (21 years ago, 11-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History
 
(...) That's correct, Thomas! Waggon wheels have a cylindrical shape for perfect running behaviour, the loco wheels are conical to avoid sliding-off of the rubber bands. Ben (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: New Poll // Train History / Set114
 
(...) Thanks a lot for your input Klaas! So 114 should have been sold in the Benelux countries as well. It's the same with 115: that set has never been available in Germany, as far as known. (...) I got some infos on set 080 a while ago: inside the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.trains)

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