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| | | If (and when, hopefully) Lego makes drivers for steamers, I think they need to meet this criteria: Available in both blind and flanged versions. Available in medium and large versions. Large ones would be about 1 1/2 times the height of a minifig. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
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| | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | (...) Also, we need a small size to replace the pulley wheels, since pulley wheels don't have flanges. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | (...) This is a good idea - then you can put linkages across a set of six wheels. You'd have one axle blind and just have the other two running on the track. (...) Not so sure about this. The problem with any long wheelset is that it has to be (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —James Powell
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| | | | | | (...) um. I _think_ it would be possible with a x-6-x loco and blind drivers (IE 2 sets flanged, 1 blind in that order) to get them up the boiler. I know it is possible using the old large red wheels and tires to do so with a -2- loco, because I (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | | (...) Right, like O-Gauge trains have. This is the configuration I'm suggesting when I say this. For those who aren't familiar with O-gauge, this means the motor would attach to the body with the pilot and trailing trucks swinging out. Actually, I (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I know- and real wheels ranged up to 12' something (yes, only on the GWR...IIRC, the biggest were over 14' dia...Even if most were ~60-80" tall...in other words, they should be taller than a minifig. (...) I can't find an image right now- I'm (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) 56K...sucks, don't it? Thanks Kevin for posting the pics, interesting solutions with both. (...) I think I know what you're talking about. Like the technic plates Shaun Sullivan has on his German loco, right? I was not aware that was what the (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I got unplugged ~1 year ago, from cable-phone. It sucks. (moved too far out for ADSL/cable, so phone it is) (...) No, nearly _all_ that I could quickly check (NYC J2, Niagara, Pensy K4, U2 SAR25, DoG, A1, Castle) have fluted con rods. A quick (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) If you're saying you want maroon to simulate dirtied bright red rather than because it's a prototype, I strenuously disagree. For the most part LEGO(r) has always been about shiny clean stuff. So if the wheels are bright red, bright red is the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) If we could get many new wheels I would wish for one that was very tall, but if we could only get one, I would NOT want one that was at the tall end of the range, I would want one that was more typically sized. Typical sizes did not much (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | | | (...) same (...) tires, (...) Here are a few pics of Robin's HE on FBTB: (URL) is another very similar HE built by another member, Scott Falez (URL) are heavily articulated to get around teh curves, and the drivers don't extend up past the footplate (...) (22 years ago, 3-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | (...) These locos still had the wheels below the plate. In fact, the plate looks disproportionately high to accommodate them. The problem with the wheels-up-the-sides approach is that it fixes the body to the wheels at the centre point of the loco. (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Harvey Henkelman
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| | | | | I don't think the wheels should be too tall. In reality they should be little taller than the current train wheels, but I'd also like to see them being offered in both red and black versions. another option would be the choice of linking the drive (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —John Gerlach
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| | | | | (...) The one issue that comes to my mind is that if the flanged wheels get too big, they'll have a tendency to 'climb' off the rails, especially on the outside of curves. As the wheel gets bigger, the flange would also have to get bigger, and we're (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | | (...) Hehe. You also have to watch out for overhead obstructions. How tall is your Atlantic, anyway? Looks pretty big. And very cool. -Stefan- (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ah, you are looking for a Hiawatha Atlantic, are you Stefan? Actually, J-1 was modeling a Hiawatha Hudson with a little selective compression on the number of drivers (his MOC is actually a 4-4-4 instead of the proper 4-6-4) I, on the other (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | | | (...) Uhh...oops. I didn't know the Milwaukee Road streamlined any Hudsons. That's what I get for not looking at the wheels. (...) I look forward to seeing them. -Stefan- (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —John Kelly III
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| | | | | | ARGHHHHH!!! et tu Brute? No Lathes! ...returns to lurking.... (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | (...) Hi Stefan, I would suggest: - start simple with on1y one new mold and colours red and black! (if really needed, we still could cut off the flange) - even one size only is enough for hundreds of new designs. (1) (...) Axle holes are needed for (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | (...) The one thing where I disagree. With the rods towards the center of the wheel, it just wouldn't look right. They need to be in the correct spot on the drivers. That is part of the beauty (sp?) of steamers; the wonderful movement of the side (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | (...) Hi Stefan, if you take a look at real steam engines, you can easiely find out, that there have been different solutions. Some had the eye quite near the flange, but lots of them had it much nearer the center than to the flange. So if lots of (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) The telling factor here is the mechanical advantage desired. Fast passenger locomotives with large drivers may well have their rod connetion point much closer to the center proportionally than small drivered steamers intended for low speed (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: My opinion on drivers... —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | (...) Ah. I stand corrected on the rod location issue then. I see y'alls point. Plus, I could have just looked at the photo of a J that hangs in my room (DUH! :^P ). The rods are about 15" away from the edge of the driver, and about a foot away from (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.trains)
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